Pitching, Chipping Problem

[doodah12]

Having major troubles with less than full shots where I believe I stop rotating through. 

I'll be fine executing pitches or chips, and then like flipping a switch, all of sudden these shots go dead right. 

I know, I'm not continuing to rotate, not finishing with chest, belt buckle at target, but just seems once this starts, I can't seem to get back to normal shots, just like I've flipped a switch. 

Any drills, etc to work out of this once it starts, or to permanently stop this. Thanks. 

[iacas]

I mean, if you know what the problem is… can't you just work on "not" doing that? Or by "doing" the thing the right way?

Also, what kind of "dead right"? Is it a shank, or are they on the face?

[doodah12]

I know, it's almost like the guy that goes to the doctor and says 'Dr, it hurts when I do this, Dr: Then dont do this', lol. 

It's more like a shank, I guess I'm not rotating through and it catches heel, hosel. 

It's very easy to say " just don't do that', but we know this is golf, lol

[iacas]

Exaggerate the thing you want to DO so that the thing you don't want to do doesn't have a chance to occur.

If you know the answer… then that's the answer.

[DrvFrShow]

Not the chipping problem in the OP, but chipping problem nonetheless. So since it's chipping I put it here. Move to a separate thread if you want, Erik. This cropped up during my last two rounds. The duffs and chunks. The rough has gotten so thick that my highest bounce wedge gets stuck. I've opened the clubface a bit to try and get it to glide through and nope. Okay, there was the 4 chip where I kept checking the weather before I hit the ball but we'll forget about that because I fixed that the next hole. 

In any event, I got to the back 9 and went to my 5H for chipping. It didn't get stuck, but I wish it had a little more loft. I was a lot more successful with it than I was with my wedges in that thick rough. It's 24 degrees. 

I decided to pick up a more lofted hybrid. Something around 26 degrees and increase loft to 27 to replace my 6i. Not that i can't hit my 6i. That's not the problem. I can hit the 27 degree hybrid and the 6i equally well. It's that the hybrid is a little more versatile... chipping. Also... fairway bunkers on par 5s. 

I remember back in my early years of playing the pro I took lessons from told me to use my putter if I could, but this rough was too heavy to use the putter. I tried and it didn't work. So I tried & went with the hybrid. I've noticed some pros chipping with FWs. So chipping with hybrids? Good idea? Or do you see it as a band aid?

If I have to go over a bunker, I'm going to use a LW with flop shot. 

[Seeking70s]

On 6/24/2022 at 11:48 PM, DrvFrShow said:

Not the chipping problem in the OP, but chipping problem nonetheless. So since it's chipping I put it here. Move to a separate thread if you want, Erik. This cropped up during my last two rounds. The duffs and chunks. The rough has gotten so thick that my highest bounce wedge gets stuck. I've opened the clubface a bit to try and get it to glide through and nope. Okay, there was the 4 chip where I kept checking the weather before I hit the ball but we'll forget about that because I fixed that the next hole. 

In any event, I got to the back 9 and went to my 5H for chipping. It didn't get stuck, but I wish it had a little more loft. I was a lot more successful with it than I was with my wedges in that thick rough. It's 24 degrees. 

I decided to pick up a more lofted hybrid. Something around 26 degrees and increase loft to 27 to replace my 6i. Not that i can't hit my 6i. That's not the problem. I can hit the 27 degree hybrid and the 6i equally well. It's that the hybrid is a little more versatile... chipping. Also... fairway bunkers on par 5s. 

I remember back in my early years of playing the pro I took lessons from told me to use my putter if I could, but this rough was too heavy to use the putter. I tried and it didn't work. So I tried & went with the hybrid. I've noticed some pros chipping with FWs. So chipping with hybrids? Good idea? Or do you see it as a band aid?

If I have to go over a bunker, I'm going to use a LW with flop shot. 

I think chipping/putting with hybrid can be a valuable part of an overall greenside arsenal. You’ll see PGA players do it at times, when the situation warrants it.

Without seeing your technique, hard to know what might be causing that “sticking” issue.

That issue in my experience is usually caused more by the leading edge digging. Do you have an exaggerated forward lean of the shaft at address? 

[DrvFrShow]

It's likely that I'm doing something stupid like trying to actually chip rather than open the club face and pitch. I was really good with short game last year, but for some reason lost confidence this year.

[DrvFrShow]

Update: that Ping hybrid set at 27 degrees is the bomb. Not only is it great for those bump and run chips. I holed out one last round and almost holed out two more in the same round. It's completely replaced my 6i. It just takes some time getting used to how lively the face is for chipping. The Ping 5H has my seal of approval. 

[WillieT]

On 5/28/2022 at 2:21 PM, iacas said:

Exaggerate the thing you want to DO so that the thing you don't want to do doesn't have a chance to occur.

If you know the answer… then that's the answer.

“Exaggeration” is how I work on it when working pitches and chips in the backyard.  If it’s going right, set up for it to go more left. When it’s too far left, then I start easing back right.  

[billchao]

On 7/6/2022 at 3:43 PM, Seeking70s said:

I think chipping/putting with hybrid can be a valuable part of an overall greenside arsenal. You’ll see PGA players do it at times, when the situation warrants it.

I have never understood how to do this. Every time I have tried it, the ball gets just over the little bit of rough or whatever exactly as I intended, then rolls forever. I almost rather use my putter and just hit a little more up on it.

I did it just a few rounds ago, come to think.

[saevel25]

Using a hybrid to chip is good when you have a good amount of fairway that you just have to make a HUGE putting stroke to get through. The hybrid, being more lofted, an having a hotter club face, just lets you make a smaller stroke and let the ball bounce more through the fairway area to get to the green. It does take some practice, for feel, but I find it to be a pretty good option in some instances. 

[roejye]

On 6/24/2022 at 10:48 PM, DrvFrShow said:

Not the chipping problem in the OP, but chipping problem nonetheless. So since it's chipping I put it here. Move to a separate thread if you want, Erik. This cropped up during my last two rounds. The duffs and chunks. The rough has gotten so thick that my highest bounce wedge gets stuck. I've opened the clubface a bit to try and get it to glide through and nope. Okay, there was the 4 chip where I kept checking the weather before I hit the ball but we'll forget about that because I fixed that the next hole. 

In any event, I got to the back 9 and went to my 5H for chipping. It didn't get stuck, but I wish it had a little more loft. I was a lot more successful with it than I was with my wedges in that thick rough. It's 24 degrees. 

I decided to pick up a more lofted hybrid. Something around 26 degrees and increase loft to 27 to replace my 6i. Not that i can't hit my 6i. That's not the problem. I can hit the 27 degree hybrid and the 6i equally well. It's that the hybrid is a little more versatile... chipping. Also... fairway bunkers on par 5s. 

I remember back in my early years of playing the pro I took lessons from told me to use my putter if I could, but this rough was too heavy to use the putter. I tried and it didn't work. So I tried & went with the hybrid. I've noticed some pros chipping with FWs. So chipping with hybrids? Good idea? Or do you see it as a band aid?

If I have to go over a bunker, I'm going to use a LW with flop shot. 

One of the golf youtubers I follow is a big proponent of chipping with hybrids and/or fairway woods, particularly if it's pretty wide open and too long for good distance control with a putter. It's also what I've started to try to do more often when chipping, just get it over the junk and rolling asap. Yeah it would be nice to hit that sexy airborne chip that lands and stops after 1 or 2 hops, but that's just not in my game right now. The scorecard doesn't have pictures.

[boogielicious]

6 hours ago, billchao said:

I have never understood how to do this. Every time I have tried it, the ball gets just over the little bit of rough or whatever exactly as I intended, then rolls forever. I almost rather use my putter and just hit a little more up on it.

I did it just a few rounds ago, come to think.

Agree it’s not good for green-side chipping. I’d rather use a 7 or 9 iron for this type of chip.

6 hours ago, saevel25 said:

Using a hybrid to chip is good when you have a good amount of fairway that you just have to make a HUGE putting stroke to get through. The hybrid, being more lofted, an having a hotter club face, just lets you make a smaller stroke and let the ball bounce more through the fairway area to get to the green. It does take some practice, for feel, but I find it to be a pretty good option in some instances. 

This^.

[billchao]

38 minutes ago, boogielicious said:

Agree it’s not good for green-side chipping. I’d rather use a 7 or 9 iron for this type of chip.

But that’s exactly where guys on the PGA Tour use it? You see it when their ball is on the edge of the fringe with rough behind it where you can’t make a clean putter stroke or something.

[Bob M]

8 hours ago, billchao said:

I have never understood how to do this. Every time I have tried it, the ball gets just over the little bit of rough or whatever exactly as I intended, then rolls forever. I almost rather use my putter and just hit a little more up on it.

I did it just a few rounds ago, come to think.

This is a short game shot which I like and use fairly regularly....but you have to practice it. I hold the hybrid quite a bit upright in order to neutralize the sweet spot (forces a hit lower on the face), use a putting grip and stroke. 

Friday night, I got up and down using this technique from off the back of the green just into the light rough to a back pin.  Took a short swing and the ball popped onto to the green and rolled a few feet from the hole. It can also be good when you have an uphill shot to the green and the lie is tight. 

[saevel25]

2 hours ago, billchao said:

But that’s exactly where guys on the PGA Tour use it? You see it when their ball is on the edge of the fringe with rough behind it where you can’t make a clean putter stroke or something.

I don’t care where they use it at. They got egos to maintain about their game. Most would pitch or chip with an iron.