Seven Disputed Terms in Golf

[Big C]

26 minutes ago, iacas said:

But calling -3 on a hole a double eagle shows you don't know what a double eagle is. 😉

True, but at least I'm in good company. 

26 minutes ago, iacas said:

And as a Rules official, I miss "dormie" and "halved" and so on, but those words are gone, so I've been working to remove them.

I'm still keeping dormie alive. Our men's club has a match play championship every year and I always confirm "are we dormie?" when I'm up 2 with 2 to play, or similar. 

I don't recall hearing others use the term much, but at least everyone seems to understand what I'm talking about when I ask the question. 

[NM Golf]

1 hour ago, iacas said:

• I mean… you're literally arguing against the dictionary at this point.

Oh I'm sooo arguing with the dictionary!  🤬  Damn you New Oxford!!!

[Double Mocha Man]

3 hours ago, NM Golf said:

The reason being they are doing it wrong! If the Seahawks were PLAYING football and the Mariners were PLAYING baseball they would win more!

I will have a little talk with Pete and Scott.

[iacas]

1 hour ago, Big C said:

are we dormie

Only one player is dormie. 😀

[pganapathy]

On 9/27/2022 at 9:50 PM, iacas said:

Fighting words: Breaking down the 7 most disputed terms in golf | Golf News and Tour Information | Golf Digest

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Is it OK to use golf as a verb? Is it sand trap or bunker? Open Championship or British Open? We explore golf's most disputed terms … and declare winners

How do you vote on each?

1. Can "golf" be used as a verb (i.e. "I'm golfing right now!")?
2. If you make a 2 on a par five, is it an "albatross" or a "double eagle"?
3. Is a sandy pit area a "bunker" or a "sand trap"?
4. "Tied," "All Square," or "Halved"?
5. "Alternate Shot" or "Foursomes", and "Better Ball" vs. "Fourball"?
6. "British Open" or "The Open"?
7. "Hole Location" or "Pin Location" or "Pin Placement"?

I'll vote after someone else posts so my reply isn't merged into this topic.

1) Golf has become a verb, which I use, but it really shouldn't have.

2) Most definitely albatross.  What type of term is double eagle

3) Bunker

4) All Square when asked the score but halved for what happened in the hole

5) Fourball

6) The Open

7) Pin placement

[Double Mocha Man]

3 hours ago, NM Golf said:

Perhaps the issue is in the fact that no one has ever played weightlift or played fish, or played race, or played bowl. Bowling, weightlifting, fishing, and racing are both nouns and verbs in their -ing form whereas golfing is really just a verb and golf is the noun? Golf is the only word I can think of that can be used as both "play golf" and "golfing." Does that even make sense? I don't know, I just know "golfing" hurts my ears.

Anyway, I will never say golfing and I will still correct my children when they ask me "if I am going golfing." I will forever answer them with, "No, I am going to play golf."

Then again I wear a white belt A LOT so maybe my personal choices aren't what they should be... 😜

Yeah, Dad is weird...

[Vinsk]

4 hours ago, NM Golf said:

Golf is the only word I can think of that can be used as both "play golf" and "golfing."

‘Play drums’ : ‘drumming’

[NM Golf]

19 hours ago, Vinsk said:

‘Play drums’ : ‘drumming’

I would argue someone plays THE drums, and the "the" is an ellipsis? Nobody has ever played the golf. I fear this conversation has gone off the rails...🥴

[iacas]

I’ve heard people say “he’s air guitaring.”

[Vinsk]

39 minutes ago, NM Golf said:

I would argue someone plays THE drums, and the "the" is an ellipsis? Nobody has ever played the golf. I fear this conversation has gone off the rails...🥴

What are you doing?

1. Playing drums.

2. Drumming.

What do you play?

1.  Drums.

[dennyjones]

Can we all agree that the English language just sucks sometimes!   I can't imagine trying to learn it but here we are trying to decide if a noun  is a verb.   It's both!

[mdl]

1. Can "golf" be used as a verb (i.e. "I'm golfing right now!")  Yes, of course. It's a noun and a verb in the English language. Some sports are only nouns. Some are both. Claiming otherwise is no less ridiculous than claiming the past tense of fight is fighted because that's how past tense works in English.
2. If you make a 2 on a par five, is it an "albatross" or a "double eagle"? No strong feeling here but I like Albatross more.
3. Is a sandy pit area a "bunker" or a "sand trap"? Synonyms. Though I only ever use "bunker", "sand", or "trap". Never "sand trap".
4. "Tied," "All Square," or "Halved"? Match play, "all square". Stroke play, "tied".
5. "Alternate Shot" or "Foursomes", and "Better Ball" vs. "Fourball"? Alternate shot and best ball (not better ball). If I have the option between a name that gives me lots of info about what it is I'm naming versus one that give little to none, I'm always choosing the former!
6. "British Open" or "The Open"? If talking with golfers who know what "The Open" means, then either. If talking to anyone else, using "The Open" is insufferable.
7. "Hole Location" or "Pin Location" or "Pin Placement"? I've used hole location and pin placement, but use hole location way more often.