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Morphy11 Newbie

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This is a rather touchy subject especially if you're planning on playing in USGA sponsored events. In the past when I've noticed that if my wedge shots appeared to "leak" to the right on approach shots, I'd take my wedges into a practice bunker and swing them into the sand with a steep angle to really dig them out of the sand. Do this 12 or 15 times and you'll notice that the grooves give you the original bite you had when you first bought them. Plus this is probably the only way you can legally sharpen them without altering the depth of the grooves. Hope this helps.


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iacas
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They tend to come right at the limit, and I'm not sure you can really do much before they become illegal. Groove rules go down to the thousandth of an inch. I suggest it's not worth the hassle. Clea

dennyjones
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Read the first page of this thread.   @iacas answered it I believe in the second post many years ago.

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I, too find the anger about a fellow golf nut asking about a groove sharpener a little discomforting.

I now posit the following questions...

1)  Which wedge of the formerly conforming groove construction seems to have the sharpest grooves?

2)  How long can I play my formerly conforming groove construction wedges that everyone used to play not two years ago in my local member member?  And can I rub it in when I two hop and check a pitch to my playing partner?... Do I get bonus points if they are a Sand Trap member?

3)  Is it bad if I put a stripe of vaseline on my towel that gets swiped across my driver face before I hit?

And Most Importantly... Anyone who makes a bitter beer face to the previous three questions....

4) Can I hawkeye your approach and subsequent address and contact with the golf ball as you meet it in the rough or hell fairway... or hell marking and replacing the ball on your every shot?

I don't give a damn what you do... just play the ball down.  Something many of the hecklers in this thread probably do not stay true to... Those guys aye carumbing a groove sharpener also probably wear black golf shoes with shorts and think it looks cool.


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Hacker James Great Member

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I was going to post query about groove sharpening tools. Moot point however, given that I ordered one anyway. But FWIW, plenty of info in the archives. I have to continually remind myself to check before posting. My irons are old, so it probably can't hurt and may or may not make a difference.

In retrospect, I guess I just "did" make such a post.  Oh well.....

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:titleist: 913 D3 with Aldila RIP Phenom 60 4,2 Regular Shaft,  :touredge: Exotics XCG-7 Beta 3W with Matrix Red Tie Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX8 19 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3 Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX9 28 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3  shaft, / Bobby Jones Black 22 deg Hybrid:touredge: Exotics EXi 6 -PW  w UST Mamiya Recoil F2 Shaft, SW (56),GW (52),LW (60):touredge:  TGS),/ ODDYSEE Metal-X #7 customized putter (400G, cut down Mid Belly)

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Dave2512 Super Member

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FWIW I used one on my old 845s and while I can't say it sharpened the grooves with enough work it did take some of the small nicks/pits out. Word of caution be careful dragging it across the club. Doesn't take much pressure to get metal shavings and I put some nasty scratches on smooth part of the face a few times. At best it cleaned the clubs up a bit and I felt a tad more confident standing over the clubs seeing cleaner grooves, could actually see the bare metal where the tool made a mark.

Dave :-)

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FWIW I used one on my old 845s and while I can't say it sharpened the grooves with enough work it did take some of the small nicks/pits out. Word of caution be careful dragging it across the club. Doesn't take much pressure to get metal shavings and I put some nasty scratches on smooth part of the face a few times. At best it cleaned the clubs up a bit and I felt a tad more confident standing over the clubs seeing cleaner grooves, could actually see the bare metal where the tool made a mark.

did you use the "V" groove end, or the "U" groove end?

"James"

:titleist: 913 D3 with Aldila RIP Phenom 60 4,2 Regular Shaft,  :touredge: Exotics XCG-7 Beta 3W with Matrix Red Tie Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX8 19 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3 Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX9 28 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3  shaft, / Bobby Jones Black 22 deg Hybrid:touredge: Exotics EXi 6 -PW  w UST Mamiya Recoil F2 Shaft, SW (56),GW (52),LW (60):touredge:  TGS),/ ODDYSEE Metal-X #7 customized putter (400G, cut down Mid Belly)

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Hacker James Great Member

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oh, I tried looking it up but could not get a direct answer.  Are Hogan Edge Irons  "V" or "U"?  I can't tell by looking with my bum vision.  The tool I ordered says it can be used for either. I am assuming it has two ends.

"James"

:titleist: 913 D3 with Aldila RIP Phenom 60 4,2 Regular Shaft,  :touredge: Exotics XCG-7 Beta 3W with Matrix Red Tie Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX8 19 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3 Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX9 28 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3  shaft, / Bobby Jones Black 22 deg Hybrid:touredge: Exotics EXi 6 -PW  w UST Mamiya Recoil F2 Shaft, SW (56),GW (52),LW (60):touredge:  TGS),/ ODDYSEE Metal-X #7 customized putter (400G, cut down Mid Belly)

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Dave2512 Super Member

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did you use the "V" groove end, or the "U" groove end?

Both, 845s are square groove but the V end works great for cleaning clubs. Though I wouldn't use it on my new irons, no reason to. I have several old iron sets and used the tool on all of them. At least I tried to, some irons had grooves wider than the tool. It didn't do much if anything for my forged, chromed irons. Finish was too hard and brittle. Worked fine on the older cast irons. Like I said it took shavings out of my 845s.

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A while back I bought a cheap groove tool online, with reversible blade for V groove and also U groove. It works a little too well. My practice balls are getting chewed up!  I guess I got a little aggressive.

"James"

:titleist: 913 D3 with Aldila RIP Phenom 60 4,2 Regular Shaft,  :touredge: Exotics XCG-7 Beta 3W with Matrix Red Tie Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX8 19 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3 Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX9 28 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3  shaft, / Bobby Jones Black 22 deg Hybrid:touredge: Exotics EXi 6 -PW  w UST Mamiya Recoil F2 Shaft, SW (56),GW (52),LW (60):touredge:  TGS),/ ODDYSEE Metal-X #7 customized putter (400G, cut down Mid Belly)

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Hacker James Great Member

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  On 2/20/2017 at 11:24 PM, dennyjones said:

I've never used one.   Are they worthwhile?  

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jury still out.  While they do an excellent job of cleaning, not really sure any benefit to spin e.t.c. a lot is mental.

"James"

:titleist: 913 D3 with Aldila RIP Phenom 60 4,2 Regular Shaft,  :touredge: Exotics XCG-7 Beta 3W with Matrix Red Tie Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX8 19 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3 Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX9 28 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3  shaft, / Bobby Jones Black 22 deg Hybrid:touredge: Exotics EXi 6 -PW  w UST Mamiya Recoil F2 Shaft, SW (56),GW (52),LW (60):touredge:  TGS),/ ODDYSEE Metal-X #7 customized putter (400G, cut down Mid Belly)

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  On 2/20/2017 at 9:03 PM, Hacker James said:

A while back I bought a cheap groove tool online, with reversible blade for V groove and also U groove. It works a little too well. My practice balls are getting chewed up!  I guess I got a little aggressive.

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Which one? The one I bought sucks. Barely does anything. I feel it was a waste of time. 

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Hacker James Great Member

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the one I have is from GrooveSharpener.com. Another I have seen in my email ads, is a little more high tech, has a screwable cap cover, chain to attach to a bag D ring, Knurled Body. priced at at around $13.  and only has a V groove blade. 

"James"

:titleist: 913 D3 with Aldila RIP Phenom 60 4,2 Regular Shaft,  :touredge: Exotics XCG-7 Beta 3W with Matrix Red Tie Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX8 19 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3 Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX9 28 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3  shaft, / Bobby Jones Black 22 deg Hybrid:touredge: Exotics EXi 6 -PW  w UST Mamiya Recoil F2 Shaft, SW (56),GW (52),LW (60):touredge:  TGS),/ ODDYSEE Metal-X #7 customized putter (400G, cut down Mid Belly)

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1badbadger Great Member

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  On 2/20/2017 at 11:33 PM, mchepp said:

Which one? The one I bought sucks. Barely does anything. I feel it was a waste of time. 

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Some tools are meant for "cleaning" and others are designed for "sharpening".  You may have a cleaning tool and not a sharpening tool.

Bridgestone j40 445 w/ Graphite Design AD DJ-7
Callaway Steelhead Plus 3 wood w/ RCH Pro Series 3.2
Adams Idea Pro hybrids (3 & 4) w/ Aldila VS Proto 
Bridgestone j33 CB (5-PW) w/ original Rifle 5.5
Bridgestone West Coast 52*, j40 satin 56* & 60* w/ DG S-300
Odyssey White Hot XG #9
Bridgestone B330-RX

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Hacker James Great Member

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Some tools are meant for "cleaning" and others are designed for "sharpening".  You may have a cleaning tool and not a sharpening tool.

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to get it to "bite" you need to use the corner edge rather than flat. It is like a tiny screwdriver, but with a carbide tip. On my six iron at address, I can see  a noticeable shine and difference in the bottom three or four grooves which are the ones that arguably influence action of a ball.

I just notice, the one I saw earlier is now appearing on the side of this thread. It is called SILVER TruGroove Golf Club Groove Sharpener by VersaGolf. (Amazon Prime $13.88)

 

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"James"

:titleist: 913 D3 with Aldila RIP Phenom 60 4,2 Regular Shaft,  :touredge: Exotics XCG-7 Beta 3W with Matrix Red Tie Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX8 19 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3 Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX9 28 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3  shaft, / Bobby Jones Black 22 deg Hybrid:touredge: Exotics EXi 6 -PW  w UST Mamiya Recoil F2 Shaft, SW (56),GW (52),LW (60):touredge:  TGS),/ ODDYSEE Metal-X #7 customized putter (400G, cut down Mid Belly)

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Do groove sharpeners work, how much more spin will I be getting, do they comply with usga rules and should I get one? Another thing do they ruin your clubs, and can I use them on my irons  thanks guys :)

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