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Jack vs. Tiger: Who's the Greatest Golfer?

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  1. 1. Tiger or Jack: Who's the greatest golfer?

    • Tiger Woods is the man
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    • Jack Nicklaus is my favorite
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I don't see why numbers like would be compared. Players today are much better than 50 years ago. The comparison always have to be with respect to the field and level at the time they played.

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1 minute ago, Zeph said:

I don't see why numbers like would be compared. Players today are much better than 50 years ago. The comparison always have to be with respect to the field and level at the time they played.

It’s a comparison to what each did in their respective fields. Tiger performed superior in his field vs Jack to his.

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47 minutes ago, Vinsk said:

It’s a comparison to what each did in their respective fields. Tiger performed superior in his field vs Jack to his.

The tweet didn't have any numbers that compared Jack to his field?

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19 minutes ago, Zeph said:

The tweet didn't have any numbers that compared Jack to his field?

His wins were against his field, as Tiger's were against his.

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This thread will hit 400 pages (not posts, pages) soon.  It asked one "either/or" question.  I predict the posts will dramatically slow down as Tiger gets more wins.  The only thing keeping it going are the 18/14, then 18/15 guys.  It's pretty silly that these guys are so number dependent that even probably 18/17 (and if Tiger were to have no other wins but majors during that time to get to 17, he'd be at 83 total wins).  And with 17 Majors, 83 wins, and they'd still only be about number of majors.

And overnight they'll disappear if it becomes 18/18.  Then somehow one player who wasn't the GOAT at 3pm that 18th major Sunday, is 3 hours later unquestionably the GOAT at 6pm?  The player is the same.  The question isn't "Who won more majors?".  The question is who is the greatest -- and that is in essence a question that considers ALL factors -- who they played against, whether the player they were playing against choked it away the last few holes (Isao Aoki 1980 US Open), quality of their other wins, amateur careers -- the best assessment is to take everything into account.

It's the drones who parrot 18/15 like stats and can't think with a bit more nuance (about golf and everything else in life) that make this world a worse place.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, nehemiah said:

This thread will hit 400 pages (not posts, pages) soon.  It asked one "either/or" question.  I predict the posts will dramatically slow down as Tiger gets more wins.  The only thing keeping it going are the 18/14, then 18/15 guys.  It's pretty silly that these guys are so number dependent that even probably 18/17 (and if Tiger were to have no other wins but majors during that time to get to 17, he'd be at 83 total wins).  And with 17 Majors, 83 wins, and they'd still only be about number of majors.

And overnight they'll disappear if it becomes 18/18.  Then somehow one player who wasn't the GOAT at 3pm that 18th major Sunday, is 3 hours later unquestionably the GOAT at 6pm?  The player is the same.  The question isn't "Who won more majors?".  The question is who is the greatest -- and that is in essence a question that considers ALL factors -- who they played against, whether the player they were playing against choked it away the last few holes (Isao Aoki 1980 US Open), quality of their other wins, amateur careers -- the best assessment is to take everything into account.

It's the drones who parrot 18/15 like stats and can't think with a bit more nuance (about golf and everything else in life) that make this world a worse place.

While I agree with and like a lot of what you said… Tiger probably ain't getting to even 17. So, some of the stuff you said probably won't happen. I'd bet a fair amount of money he doesn't get to 18.

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4 hours ago, iacas said:

While I agree with and like a lot of what you said… Tiger probably ain't getting to even 17. So, some of the stuff you said probably won't happen. I'd bet a fair amount of money he doesn't get to 18.

I agree it's unlikely.  It was more of a scenario presented for argument's sake, rather than the likelihood of it happening.  It's a funny game though, there is still a chance that he'll get into some groove that happens in golf sometimes, even at a late age.  The chances of it happening are much less -- but there is a possibility still.

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41 minutes ago, nehemiah said:

It's a funny game though, there is still a chance that he'll get into some groove that happens in golf sometimes, even at a late age.  The chances of it happening are much less -- but there is a possibility still.

IMO - it did happen, and we were all watching and celebrating when it did.
And that is how he won his 16th major - maybe his latest knee surgery will lead to another resurgence, but I'm in the I'll have to see it (again) to believe it camp.

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34 minutes ago, Wally Fairway said:

IMO - it did happen, and we were all watching and celebrating when it did.
And that is how he won his 16th major - maybe his latest knee surgery will lead to another resurgence, but I'm in the I'll have to see it (again) to believe it camp.

15th. 

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42 minutes ago, Vinsk said:

15th. 

Oops - fat fingered it. Thanks.
Even though there are other points that can be made 1st & 2nd in majors, top 5's or top 10's - that doesn't make up the difference in field strength and dominance vs. stronger field.

This thread will go on year after year, with new posters, but in the end Tiger is GOAT even if he never plays another event.

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25 minutes ago, Wally Fairway said:

Oops - fat fingered it. Thanks.
Even though there are other points that can be made 1st & 2nd in majors, top 5's or top 10's - that doesn't make up the difference in field strength and dominance vs. stronger field.

This thread will go on year after year, with new posters, but in the end Tiger is GOAT even if he never plays another event.

Yeah I agree. And really anyone who appreciates the totality of stats and the significance of SOF knows Tiger is the GOAT to date. The Jack folks are really just nostalgically stubborn or uninformed, intentionally or not.

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