The Biggest Secret? Slide Your Hips

[fanofsaosin]

i have a question... so assuming someone looks good at p4.... when the hips start to slide from the top are the accumulators starting to release.... have a buddy starting to convert to the system but looks like shoulders get to vertical instead of turning the shoulders on a constant circle

[mvmac]

Yes, accumulators unload as you go forward/turn, no delay

[miami8miami]

So Iacas or mvmac, would you still recommend practicing a linear hip slide to a low handicap who has a tendency to not release pa's 1 and 4 quickly enough?

how do you make sure practicing the linear hip slide does not lead to early extension issues?

[mvmac]

Originally Posted by miami8miami

So Iacas or mvmac, would you still recommend practicing a linear hip slide to a low handicap who has a tendency to not release pa's 1 and 4 quickly enough?

how do you make sure practicing the linear hip slide does not lead to early extension issues?

Sequencing issue, have to practice the arms lowering as you kick in your transfers.  Or could be a trail elbow issue at A4(P4), PA's 4&1 not having adequate space to lower down.

But the short answer is yes, if the player doesn't move the hips far enough forward, let's say 4-5 inches, then that would be something they need to improve.

Big part of the linear hip slide is adding pressure into the lead foot, squashing a bug under your left foot feeling, that helps get those hips go forward.  Adding that pressure will also help you regain flexion from A4-A5 so you don't move off the wall (early extension). Remember the right hip has released it's address flexion at A4 and goes back into address flexion by A5/5.5.

[bplewis24]

So is there a glossary somewhere on this site?

Brandon

[Zeph]

If you mean the positions, accumulators etc., you got a nice list here: http://thesandtrap.com/a/big-list-of-golf-terminology

[bplewis24]

That'll do.

[miami8miami]

So practicing the hip slide will not inhibit pa's 1 and 4 to release fast enough. where should the weight be felt on your lead (left foot for a rightie) foot? on the heel?

The hip slide done correctly puts the body back in flexion by itself? Or can there be an intentional squetting i.e. tiger woods to get back into address flexion?

[iacas]

Originally Posted by miami8miami

So practicing the hip slide will not inhibit pa's 1 and 4 to release fast enough. where should the weight be felt on your lead (left foot for a rightie) foot? on the heel?

The hip slide done correctly puts the body back in flexion by itself? Or can there be an intentional squetting i.e. tiger woods to get back into address flexion?

1. Why would it?

2. More forward than the heel. Not to the toes though.

3. No.

4. Tiger overdoes it (which is okay to a point).

[wrx143]

I am not an instructor of the golf swing, still just a student after more than fifty five years of observing this incredible game.  I see the hip slide as a way to get a players weight over to the front side which in turn provides the player with the leverage needed to strick the ball with power.  Not unlike a baseball player's stride forward just before swinging at a fastball.  The more weight transferred, the more force the player can apply to the swing without loosing their balance.  In fact, most power hitters in baseball not only stride into the pitch with their front leg, they also post up to a degree and encounter some hip slide as well.  Not kidding here, but I have also noticed women have more trouble with sliding off the ball on their backswing and have to be reminded to keep that back knee bent.  I presume that is because their hips seem to move more than ours....thank God!  First post on this sight, hope to be a regular.

[Ernest Jones]

Originally Posted by wrx143

I am not an instructor of the golf swing, still just a student after more than fifty five years of observing this incredible game.  I see the hip slide as a way to get a players weight over to the front side which in turn provides the player with the leverage needed to strick the ball with power.  Not unlike a baseball player's stride forward just before swinging at a fastball.  The more weight transferred, the more force the player can apply to the swing without loosing their balance.  In fact, most power hitters in baseball not only stride into the pitch with their front leg, they also post up to a degree and encounter some hip slide as well.  Not kidding here, but I have also noticed women have more trouble with sliding off the ball on their backswing and have to be reminded to keep that back knee bent.  I presume that is because their hips seem to move more than ours....thank God!  First post on this sight, hope to be a regular.

Welcome to the forum. I would recommend you start here: http://thesandtrap.com/t/55080/myth-of-maintaining-address-flexion-in-the-rear-knee

[pumaAttack]

Wow, I wish I would have read this earlier.  I had gotten so obsessed with hip turn that I wasnt sliding forward.  I basically just opened my shoulders up before impact and sliced everything.  I am going to try this tomorrow at the range.

Great read.  Thanks.

[mvmac]

Originally Posted by pumaAttack

Wow, I wish I would have read this earlier.  I had gotten so obsessed with hip turn that I wasnt sliding forward.  I basically just opened my shoulders up before impact and sliced everything.  I am going to try this tomorrow at the range.

Great read.  Thanks.

Yes, there is slide and rotation.  Depending on the student's needs, may feel more of one than the other.

[Beachwood]

Originally Posted by pumaAttack

Wow, I wish I would have read this earlier.  I had gotten so obsessed with hip turn that I wasnt sliding forward.  I basically just opened my shoulders up before impact and sliced everything.  I am going to try this tomorrow at the range.

Great read.  Thanks.

this sounds like exactly what I was doing with my driver. slice city

[Beachwood]

I just wanted to say that I joined today after reading all, yes all, 25 pages of this thread. Fantastic information here, I can't wait to get out on the range and practice. I've struggled with consistent ball striking and i'm really hoping this helps. I'd go from thin shots to fat. Not even close to consistent. I REALLY hope this helps. Thanks Everyone that has contributed to this thread.

[Limpinswinger]

My first post.  I'm enjoying this site.  Lot's of interesting info posted by genuine enthusiasts.  I'm getting back in to golf after many years.  I'm fascinated by the S&T; concept, especially when seeing elements of that concept being used by some of the great players of the past.  My question is, how does sliding the hip toward the target reconcile with S&T; where the weight is already beginning to transfer toward the target at the top of the swing?  It seems to me that S&T; causes you to "blow your wad" so to speak, leaving little ability to further slide the hip toward the target in the downswing.

Thanks!

[colin007]

^^^ ED problem?  lol...JK!

from the top of the backswing, the weight should be moving to the left side.  pushing your weight towards the target for a longer period than most are accustomed to will allow you to deliver the club from the inside, and will shallow out your path.  just because you begin to push forward from the top doesnt mean you should keep pushing through the downswing before turning.

[Limpinswinger]

Originally Posted by colin007

^^^ ED problem?  lol...JK!

from the top of the backswing, the weight should be moving to the left side.  pushing your weight towards the target for a longer period than most are accustomed to will allow you to deliver the club from the inside, and will shallow out your path.  just because you begin to push forward from the top doesnt mean you should keep pushing through the downswing before turning.

So, you're saying that the hip slide is irreconcilable with the S&T; method?