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  iacas said:
Originally Posted by iacas

Hinge the club up a little faster. Right hand stays on top with logo on gloved left hand pointing towards the golf ball more.

Right hand stays on top. Hinge the club up a little faster.

Right hand stays on top. Hinge the club up a little faster.

Right hand stays on top. Hinge the club up a little faster.


Yes, I'm noticing I have to do this in order not to crash into my homemade plane line.

"Success is going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm." – Winston Churchill


Using my new homemade plane line!

"Success is going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm." – Winston Churchill


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  The_Pharaoh said:
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Using my new homemade plane line!

Better. Do more. Hands in. :-)

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  iacas said:
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Better. Do more. Hands in. :-)



I'm going to have to strap my left arm to my chest!

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That is starting to look way better.  Just tipping the shaft at the start of your downswing and gets steep but, way way better.  Keep up the good work.

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Looking good!  I am working on the same stuff at the moment through Evolvr.

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  poser said:
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That is starting to look way better.  Just tipping the shaft at the start of your downswing and gets steep but, way way better.  Keep up the good work.



Thanks poser. For the first time in ages, I am starting to like the look of my swing. Not only that, the ball flight is starting to take care of itself too. I am really enjoying this journey via Evolvr thanks to Mike and Erik. The downswing is going to take some time as it is not natural. I am really having to feel a massive loop in my swing to get close to being on plane coming down. I hope that once I hit the right backswing position the downswing will take care of itself. That may be wishful thinking though.



  mvmac said:
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I haven't given lifting the arms or bending the right arm a second thought. They are being taken care off simply by getting the hands in. Or should I say, more in than previously! ;-) The moment I get the hands in (where they should be), I hit my alignment stick with the clubhead. More hinging required!



  TN94z said:
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Looking good!  I am working on the same stuff at the moment through Evolvr.



Thank you! Evolvr is second to none. Do you have a swing thread?

I want to get this swing down so people see how much better I am and start believing in Stack & Tilt rather than thinking it is a reverse pivot.

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  The_Pharaoh said:
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Thank you! Evolvr is second to none. Do you have a swing thread?

I want to get this swing down so people see how much better I am and start believing in Stack & Tilt rather than thinking it is a reverse pivot.


I do, but I have yet to load any of the new videos in the thread, so I haven't updated it much.  Once I get a couple more videos, I will start posting them more. Here is the link to my swing thread. I actually need to start adding some videos in there. I didn't realize that it had been almost a year since I started that thread.

http://thesandtrap.com/t/40295/my-swing-tn94z

This video was before I was working with evolvr.  I started with a teacher at my local course but he quit soon after I started with him (not because I was so terrible...haha).  Then I started working on things myself, but didn't put that much time in.  Now that I am with evolvr, I am constantly working on takeaway and positions in my living room.  I go to the range about once per week.  Most of my practice is at home though.  I try to get myself in the correct initial positions in my living room each week before venturing to the range to hit balls.  I rehearse the takeaway, back swing, down through impact, and after impact slowly all week.  Then I go to the range on the weekends and put it to use.  I find this helps me stay in those positions when I make more full swings and actually hit balls.

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Slowly, but surely, I am getting there...

...is it just me or is there a touch of the Bob Estes about my swing now???!!

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  The_Pharaoh said:
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Slowly, but surely, I am getting there...

...is it just me or is there a touch of the Bob Estes about my swing now???


I don't know. Did Bob Estes fail to take his hands in too?

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  iacas said:
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I don't know. Did Bob Estes fail to take his hands in too?



Harsh, but fair. But they have gone in slightly more....

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Try to feel like the butt of the club hits your right leg. Stand in front of a mirror or even a reflection in a window outside, and just practice getting the hands past your right leg. As you know, once you get the hands right, the steep shoulders should take care of themselves.

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Thanks for the advice, that's a good swing thought. Just to clarify, you mean "steep" shoulders on the downswing, right?

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It's important on your backswing to allow your head to remain centred.

  The_Pharaoh said:
Originally Posted by The_Pharaoh

Thanks for the advice, that's a good swing thought. Just to clarify, you mean "steep" shoulders on the downswing, right?



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Originally Posted by michaeljames92

Try to feel like the butt of the club hits your right leg. Stand in front of a mirror or even a reflection in a window outside, and just practice getting the hands past your right leg. As you know, once you get the hands right, the steep shoulders should take care of themselves.


We've used this tip too. Heck, put a tee in the butt end of your club and let it stick out a little. Try to brush the tee against your pocket or belt.

Oh, and you can - I think - play golf with the tees in your clubs like that. People do that to stop water from getting in there, and I've never heard any rulings against that, though I think technically it should be illegal.

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Still a lot of changes to be made, but feel I am now starting to get the hands in more. I wasn't exaggerating it enough as I was afraid the clubhead would follow. For the first time, I am feeling as if my backswing has changed.

Notice how P2 changes with and without the ball there!

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Very nice. I like your Mike Weir-esque waggle to get the hands more in and the club more in front of you.

  The_Pharaoh said:
Originally Posted by The_Pharaoh

I haven't given lifting the arms or bending the right arm a second thought. They are being taken care off simply by getting the hands in. Or should I say, more in than previously! ;-) The moment I get the hands in (where they should be), I hit my alignment stick with the clubhead. More hinging required!

Agreed on both your first point and second point! More hinging from P2 to P3, right?

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