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It's too bad they did not show Tiger's iron posture in that article. His is looking pretty good today as well.

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I don't know about you, but that would freak me out to have a net like that facing other's practicing :p

I have to agree, when you tuck your hips under, it locks the hips out of the swing, which to me is never a good thing. I wonder whyΒ Camilo Villegas fell out of golf, really athletic, tons of potential, tucked his hips under a ton in his golf swing.

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Originally Posted by saevel25

I don't know about you, but that would freak me out to have a net like that facing other's practicing :p

I have to agree, when you tuck your hips under, it locks the hips out of the swing, which to me is never a good thing. I wonder whyΒ Camilo Villegas fell out of golf, really athletic, tons of potential, tucked his hips under a ton in his golf swing.



Camilo cycles too much, needs to spend more time on the course.

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I work at a range with 3 other pros and one guy is very set in his ways and is a smooth talker. He makes alotta analogies one of them comparing posture to a weight lifter benching or squatting with an arched back.. As I am a new tchr there I am trying not to get into any arguments. However I just cant allow anyone to advocate an arched lower back so I told him that there is no rotation of the spine in his analogy but wasnt able to say much else as I am not a weight trainer.. Any thoughts on how to knock some sense into this guys head?

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Originally Posted by minwooyah

I work at a range with 3 other pros and one guy is very set in his ways and is a smooth talker. He makes alotta analogies one of them comparing posture to a weight lifter benching or squatting with an arched back.. As I am a new tchr there I am trying not to get into any arguments. However I just cant allow anyone to advocate an arched lower back so I told him that there is no rotation of the spine in his analogy but wasnt able to say much else as I am not a weight trainer.. Any thoughts on how to knock some sense into this guys head?

Two easy options:

1) Point out that golf is not weight lifting.

2) Show him the pictures at the top of this thread. Especially the ones of the older (from the 1950s to the 70s) golfers.

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Originally Posted by minwooyah

I work at a range with 3 other pros and one guy is very set in his ways and is a smooth talker. He makes alotta analogies one of them comparing posture to a weight lifter benching or squatting with an arched back.. As I am a new tchr there I am trying not to get into any arguments. However I just cant allow anyone to advocate an arched lower back so I told him that there is no rotation of the spine in his analogy but wasnt able to say much else as I am not a weight trainer.. Any thoughts on how to knock some sense into this guys head?

Weight lifters do not rotate their core, shoulders and spine. Β I think what Erik says about the photos is good. Β I tried that last week with a solid scratch golfer that I know. Β He basically ignored me and refused to acknowledge it. Β Some people just are too ignorant they refuse to learn. Β Let them be static while the rest of us pass them up.

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A lot of people don't like to admit they are wrong. So, just know you are right, and if they refuse to accept it, that's there choice.

It isn't ignorance. Ignorance is lack of knowledge. It not that they are ignorant to refuse to learn. To not change your opinion when its conclusively wrong is stupidity. Ignorance would be playing golf with an arched back, because they don't know your not suppose to. Once being told they are wrong, and that their is conclusive evidence proving there way wrong, then its not ignorance. Like my one professor in college said the first day.

That's why they say ignorance is bliss. People rather act with out knowledge, because ignorance is good deniability :p

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How do some pro's get crap like that published?

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Originally Posted by cipher

How do some pro's get crap like that published?

I stopped reading golf magazines in 2006.

Too much dichotomy exists between real and feel ... between pictures and copy.

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Yeah its amazing the crap I see on the golf chanels here in Korea. Whats more mindblowing is the level of success the Korean ladies have been having on the tour. However,I do try and watch a little bit so I know what I'm up against. Thanks guys for providing a source I can rely on.

I know, your eye sight is so important for depth perception, why would you mess with that by not looking at the ball correctly.

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So not like this... :)

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Nick Price deserves to be in here.

That was a lekker shot, too.

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I know right, and Nick was probably one of the better iron players out there when he was playing on the PGA

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