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Good Golf Posture (How to Address the Golf Ball)

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Nicklaus, Snead, and Palmer look like they're suffering from osteoporosis.

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As always, Good information.  Thanks.

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Working on seeing the ball from the center of my eyes is something mvmac has had me work on.  In doing so, I hit the ball on better trajectory (especially with the driver) than when I lapse into the old way of "looking under my glasses".

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Yes, there are two things here. First is the posture of the spine, the second is the gentle tucking of the chin to allow us to see the ball out of the center of our eyes. Both are important (and doing one makes the other easier).

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I heard from a certain someone that keeping a depth perception constant is the most important thing in the golf swing.

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Originally Posted by sk golf

I heard from a certain someone that keeping a depth perception constant is the most important thing in the golf swing.


Hmm I wonder who?

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Great post This information has helped a lot and about all my lower back is much better One question , why the set up is not a fundamental or introduced in the five keys? I have suffered the S posture what has made me impossible to have a good backswing
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Great post Mike.  This is good for me because I had a spine injury in High School that curved my upper spine forward.  I can never have the old Adam Scott posture.

I think the variation in the spine posture for the pros may have a lot to do with their natural neutral posture.  Some people just naturally have a straighter back posture.  If you watch the players above walk or stand prior to hitting, you will see the neutral position.  Being in your neutral relaxed position at set up will be easier on your body.

That being said, how do you explain why Sam Snead's pants are up so high?  If I pull them up, will I swing like Sam?

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Originally Posted by carrero77

One question , why the set up is not a fundamental or introduced in the five keys?

Because there's no "one" correct posture. It's not a commonality among great players. Nor is the grip, alignment, and several other things (swing plane, for example).

Originally Posted by boogielicious

That being said, how do you explain why Sam Snead's pants are up so high?  If I pull them up, will I swing like Sam?


Do we really want to get into the testicular pressure points? Most people have enough trouble with the two pressure points beneath their armpits.

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Should the knees be bent sufficiently to obscure view of your shoe laces?  I'm asking because in my lesson yesterday I was told I'd gain higher swing speeds from a more athletic stance where my knees were bent more and the weight was on the balls of my feet.  He used the reference quoted here about bending the knees so I couldn't see my shoe laces as a guide.

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Originally Posted by newtogolf

Should the knees be bent sufficiently to obscure view of your shoe laces?  I'm asking because in my lesson yesterday I was told I'd gain higher swing speeds from a more athletic stance where my knees were bent more and the weight was on the balls of my feet.  He used the reference quoted here about bending the knees so I couldn't see my shoe laces as a guide.


Aaron was hitting the ball pretty far in these swings:

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I think that answers the question, right? Imagine how far he'd have to stick his knees out (and pull his head back) to not see his shoelaces.

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Originally Posted by carrero77

One question , why the set up is not a fundamental or introduced in the five keys?

I have suffered the S posture what has made me impossible to have a good backswing

Like Erik said it isn't a commonality of all great players.  Having said that it would definitely be an address position we recommend if the player is having a difficult time releasing flexion is his rear hip, keep his head steady and wants to prevent injury.  A player can do all 5 Keys and have an old Adam Scott set-up, but imo makes it MUCH harder to do

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That being said, how do you explain why Sam Snead's pants are up so high?  If I pull them up, will I swing like Sam?

Tried that and it didn't work, people just laughed



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Thanks Mike, he did suggest it to assist me in releasing flexion on my rear hip.  So if I understand correctly setting up with my knees bent to the level they obscured my shoe laces would be appropriate to assist my rear hip in releasing flexion?

Originally Posted by mvmac

Like Erik said it isn't a commonality of all great players.  Having said that it would definitely be an address position we recommend if the player is having a difficult time releasing flexion is his rear hip, keep his head steady and wants to prevent injury.  A player can do all 5 Keys and have an old Adam Scott set-up, but imo makes it MUCH harder to do



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Originally Posted by newtogolf

Thanks Mike, he did suggest it to assist me in releasing flexion on my rear hip.  So if I understand correctly setting up with my knees bent to the level they obscured my shoe laces would be appropriate to assist my rear hip in releasing flexion?


I think that would be too much flex in the knees, I can see my shoe laces and like that pic Erik shared of Badds, he can see his shoe laces.  The tilt of the pelvis and the direction the knees/feet are pointed (below) assist the rear hip in releasing flexion.

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Great information!  IMO, most amateur golfers suffer from slouching at address, causing their back to be rounded instead of straight.  Its something that I constantly have to pay attention too and find that when Im suddenly hitting bad shots that its a result of poor posture.

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Rounded is better did you read the thread and look at the pictures?

Originally Posted by TitleistWI

Great information!  IMO, most amateur golfers suffer from slouching at address, causing their back to be rounded instead of straight.  Its something that I constantly have to pay attention too and find that when Im suddenly hitting bad shots that its a result of poor posture.



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I teach a vast variety of skill levels as well as body types. When it is suggested that you should see the shoe laces or other tricks of the trade, one must keep in mind that these are generalized statements. Without instruction or pictures of one's self, a typical new player will arch their back significantly and be completely unaware of it. Looking back at the views of the different hitters, you can't help but notice the different body builds as well as other things. Even describing an athletic position is not an exact description. You will also notice that the more experienced players will be in a more upright position which makes it easier to turn and transfer weight. Most tour players are between 58 and 65 degrees upright depending on the club they're hitting, with a straight back. They don't stick their rear ends out excessively, they just have a straight back. They've memorized a correct position and they adhere to it. The more upright a person is, the less they have to contend with balance and the easier it is to perform the body movements. It's so easy to take a club, lay it against the back touching everything from the buttocks to the back of the head, then bend at the hips staying connected to the club, then while staying in that position, bring the club over in front of them. That is the position they should assume at address. The biggest problem that leads to the sore back as well as injuries is not warming up correctly or at all for that matter. I hit balls for 15 hours sometimes aggressively and at 52 years old, do just fine. It all comes down to being patient, stretching, and starting out slow. Preparing the muscles to perform certain actions makes all of the difference.

Christopher Warner

Master Teaching Professional

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