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Should Ernie Els Get a Masters Invitation?

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  1. 1. Should Ernie get an invite to the Masters?

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zipazoid Great Member

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BTW, they just said that all Ernie needs to do is finish top-3 today & he's in The Masters. So if he can just stop yanking putts left he can play in it. Let's watch!


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TheGeekGolfer
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Of course, they 'can' do this, I just don't think they 'should' do this.

turtleback
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Absolutely.  I think that any guy who has played in the Masters for 10 or more years in a row should get one special invitation in the first year he does not otherwise qualify.

iacas
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Oh come on. It's not like Larry Mize only made the chip. He had to get into the playoff in the first place. If he doesn't earn his way in, then that's all you can say: he didn't earn

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Originally Posted by zipazoid

...and he just gakked a two-footer.



Yeah, Mize would have made that.

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zipazoid Great Member

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They just showed a graphic of the players outside the top-50, i.e., not yet qualified to play in the The Masters. There's 7 guys ahead of Els, including Retief Goosen.

So shouldn't the title of this thread be, should Goosen get Masters invite? Dude's won two US Opens after all....


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Originally Posted by zipazoid

So shouldn't the title of this thread be, should Goosen get Masters invite? Dude's won two US Opens after all....


A fair point, yep. I think Ernie is the focus because of his gagged finish a week ago.

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zipazoid Great Member

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Okay so here it is. Els is one shot behind Bud Cauley for 3rd place & The Masters invite. If he can't beat Bud Who for 3rd place, cmon now. He doesn't deserve a Masters invite. Sorry.


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Goosen should get an invite too!

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Originally Posted by zipazoid

As does Doug Ford, Tommy Aaron, Fuzzy Zoeller, George Archer & Craig Stadler. You win & you have a lifetime exemption. So why pick on Mize?

That doesn't make 'selection process' a joke though. It just makes it what they wish it to be. They honor their past.

But they also honor the present with the rest of the ways to get in. Bottom line is, Ernie hasn't gotten the job done. If he doesn't qualify he doesn't deserve to be there.



If they never had give special invites then I would agree.  But there is long history of special invitations for players who did not qualify.  There are a lot of reasons why EE deserves such an invitation more than the vast majority of those who have gotten them in the past.  Like having qualified for more than 15 years in a row.  Like being a 3-time major winner.  Like being a multiple time runner up.  Like having just been inducted into the Hall of Fame.  Personally I think they should have an informal unwritten policy that any time a player who has qualified for 10 or more years in a row fails to qualify they get a one-time special invitation.

It is easy to say that if he doesn't qualify he doesn't deserve to be there, but that is not how the tournament has been run in the past.

But then again, what the hell do I know?

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Originally Posted by zipazoid

They don't do sponsor's exemptions at The Masters. It's a major.



No they don't do sponsor's exemptions, they give special invitations.  A distinction without a difference.

But then again, what the hell do I know?

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zipazoid Great Member

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Huge difference. Sponsor's exemptions at regular tour events are to try to increase the gate - the local amateur phenom & so on. The Masters don't have to worry about the gate. Their 'special invitations' are to reward special players, not create sideshows.

In other words, you can be sure that John Daly will never snag one.


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I think he was being sarcastic. I'd hope so anyway.

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Watching Els putt makes me nervous and it just seems like he's totally lost it with the putter. I don't think he deserves an invite based on his current play but I wouldn't be upset if he got one. The point about past champions teeing it up with no shot of winning is pointless because there is NO WAY Els would have a chance at winning with his putting.

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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1196276/index.htm

Two weeks away from the Masters, always the most anticipated tournament of the year, a little-noticed race-within-the-race on the PGA Tour—the hunt for coveted special exemptions—has begun to take shape. (Tournament officials can invite, through sponsor's and foreign exemptions, anyone they choose. A PGA Tour member can accept an unlimited number of sponsor's exemptions, while a nonmember can take only seven a year.

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I think he deserves it...he's been playing pretty well of late.  He'll do a whole lot better than the random foreigners and amateurs who get to play.  yeah his putting is a little shaky but its not like he has been missing cuts and playing terrible lately.  I would say two top 5's in a row isn't playing too bad.  In my opinion, he is gonna get the invite regardless of what we think.  And yes, he will accept.

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Ernie deserves consideration but If he can't get in on merit, I don't think he would want to play. Or unless they invoke the "ernie els" rule and offer a special invite to a deserving player every year which i think they kind of do already. On a side note, the field I would like to see at the Masters would include the following:

-Top 40 American Pros

-Top 10 American Amateurs

-Top 20 International Pros

-Top 5 International Amateurs

-past champions that don't otherwise qualify assuming they have full status on an official tour

I think some people forget that the Masters is suppose to celebrate amateur golfers


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