Brian Manzela's Lesson Recap?

[Phil McGleno]

I like what Brian Manzela teaches and think he is better than a lot of people but I wondered if people had folks had thoughts on this video I saw. It seems like a lot to keep in mind and I hope this was a several hour lesson to a guy that traveled to take the lesson and that the golfer knows how to do these things in some sort of order and not just try to do all this at once.

What do you think?

[Nole77]

Hmm..."Keep the right shoulder and right hip low."  That seemed rather odd...he's espousing a flatter turn.  I'm no expert by any means, but that seems misleading.

[x129]

Ignoring the info provided, giving a walkthrough of the whole swing sounds like a great idea if this is like lesson 1. Yes watching it in real time is tough but they guy can go home and watch the parts he struggles with repeatedly.

Not ignoring the info, the flatter turn does seem a bit odd but maybe this guy was super steep and needs to be flattened out.

[iacas]

We've done a few videos like this for students, but they tend to have a maximum of about four to six things in them (two or three might be static things - and it's rare that we get to five or six), and provide a bit more detail about each of the things, as well as the order in which they're important for the guy to work on. Golfers can't work on more than about one or two things at once (static changes don't count).

[johnclayton1982]

Brian is actually my pro down here in New Orleans.  He is fantastic.  I've been working with him for about a year and I am playing good golf (low 80s with 1 out of 4-5 in the 70s).  I couldn't recommend him higher.  He actually asked me before our first lesson if I wanted a "resort lesson" (quick tips) or if i wanted to work with him over time.  I said over time and he said ok, today we are changing your grip.  He uses trackman for every shot in every session.  That lesson could have been a "quick lesson", who knows.

I also think he teaches the short game well, and with most pros, you don't get both good short and long game instruction (in my experience).  He has cool packages of lessons (like playing lessons, etc..) rather than just the standard 1 hour.  I would recommend him to anyone in my area.

[mchepp]

I think it is a great idea to put it into a video like this. In some of my lessons I would have had to write it down to remember it but this would have been a nice thing to have to go back and remember what we worked on. I do think it is a few too many things but we don't know the background, maybe he has given the guy the same message before so 1-2 of them are reminders and 2-3 are new. Without seeing the guys swing it is hard to tell if the content is any good.

[Phil McGleno]

I counted over 10 things. left hand and heel pad finger on left hand twist something in backswing twist again in downswing more twisting in followthru flatter shoulders flatter hips hands different path back butt to target hips stay closed arms come down at different rate stop finish limit hip turn followthru then he says do those things on chip shots and work your way up to a full swing. good luck. I think highly of the guy but the circumstances behind this video would have to be pretty extraordinary for me to give someone that much in one video.

[mvmac]

Originally Posted by iacas

We've done a few videos like this for students, but they tend to have a maximum of about four to six things in them (two or three might be static things - and it's rare that we get to five or six), and provide a bit more detail about each of the things, as well as the order in which they're important for the guy to work on. Golfers can't work on more than about one or two things at once (static changes don't count).

Wait, we're not suppose to have ten swing thoughts? :)

[iacas]

Originally Posted by mvmac

Wait, we're not suppose to have ten swing thoughts? :)

No. Only odd numbers.

[x129]

That is clearly wrong. It needs to be even so so all the mistakes balance out. If you give me an odd number I will have to forget one of the for the math to workout

Originally Posted by iacas

No. Only odd numbers.

[iacas]

Originally Posted by x129

That is clearly wrong. It needs to be even so so all the mistakes balance out. If you give me an odd number I will have to forget one of the for the math to workout

I'm fairly certain that if I give you 11 things to work on in the middle of one swing you'll forget at least one.

[PeteHurrikane]

I think Brian thinks the more he gets to talk the more value for money he's giving you. I would tell him to try to breathe between tips.

[colin007]

all i know about him is that he was in the golf magazine spread about trackman data at impact, and he knows that to hit a push draw the clubface has to be open to the target at impact.

[chgocoach]

Brian knows his stuff, the whole video is out of context so who knows what him and student discussed during lesson. This could be the recap of things to work on and upcoming lessons

[Zeph]

I like to combine as many swing thoughts as possible for maximum efficiency. [VIDEO]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svDFoBHzM1A[/VIDEO]