2013 ProV1 v ProV1x 3 for 1 Deal Conundrum (First World Problems)

[luck box]

I am a huge fan of the ProV1 ball.  But after reading all of the marketing/specs on the ProV1x it seems as though that is the superior ball.

Since Titleist is having a "buy 3 personalized boxes of prov1(x) get 1 box free" special I have been researching what benefits each provide extensively.  The amount of information on this site and other golf sites is remarkable, however a good amount of it is conflicting.

From what I gathered, it seemed as though ProV1 was the ball for someone who wants more spin and a softer feel.  The ProV1x was for the player who wants slightly less spin and possibly more distance.

The confusion came into play when I started researching the different shots for each ball.

• Numerous people said that the ProV1x was longer than the ProV1.
• Some people said that the ProV1x has greater short game spin with lower long game spin.  Meaning, that inside of a 7 iron, the ball will spin more, especially on half wedge shots with the ProV1x.

Are these true statements?

If so, they lead me to the question, if the ProV1x goes further, has less spin on shots where the typical golfer wants less spin (driver, 3w) and more spin where the typical golfer would want more spin (half wedge shots/irons), then why would anyone choose the V1 over the V1x?

I have played my best rounds with the ProV1, but it seems as though the "science" and marketing are pointing to the ProV1x being the better ball.

[Harmonious]

Both are great balls. I play either, and really haven't noticed that big a difference.

[iacas]

They're almost identical outside of about 50 yards. The Pro V1 spins more on shorter shots.

[TourSpoon]

It depends on your game. What is your driver swing speed (or average non-internet drive), do you balloon the ball into the wind, do you hit it relatively straight or is side spin a factor, do you have problems holding the greens with your short irons, is feel important to you, etc. A little information could go a long way.

There is also the Titleist fitting tool...

http://www.titleist.com/golf-ball-fitting/app/

I play the V1 X because I need a little more forgiveness off the tee and can swing with enough speed to justify it. It also does not spin off the green or balloon into the wind. Around the greens I prefer the V1 because of the feel factor, especially off the putter. The guys that I play with are a mixed bunch playing both with the X just winning out. In the end, if you play better with the V1 then that is your ball.

[David in FL]

I also find the Pro V1x a little more firm/clicky with the putter.  I prefer the Pro V1, and heaven knows I could use any extra distance I might get off the tee by playing the x.

I'd really recommend trying a sleeve before committing....

[Mr. Desmond]

I always thought the V1x was a little more difficult for lower speed players to compress off the tee, therefore the V1 was the better overall choice for lower speed players since they produced lower spin with the lower swing speed (but did a higher loft driver increase spin? - only the launch monitor knows).

The V1x was a little firmer to compress and as a result, higher speed players produced lower spin off the tee with it.

At least, that is what I was led to believe all these long, long years...

[Clubchucker]

Originally Posted by David in FL

I also find the Pro V1x a little more firm/clicky with the putter.  I prefer the Pro V1, and heaven knows I could use any extra distance I might get off the tee by playing the x.

I agree with this.  For me, the Pro V1 is definitely softer and I like it much better in the short game area, but I think the X is a little longer (again, that's for me and my swing speed).  If I'm playing a Titleist ball, which I do very often, it's the Pro V1x.

[Golfingdad]

You tricked me with your title!  ;)  It's not 3 for 1, its 4 for 3.

I always played one or the other (for no reason other than they were Titleist and that's what the cool people play) until I recently started branching out and experimenting.  I could never really tell the difference between the two.

FWIW, I currently playing Penta TP3, which I like but definitely have a lot less spin than either Titleist ball.

[TourSpoon]

Originally Posted by Mr. Desmond

I always thought the V1x was a little more difficult for lower speed players to compress off the tee, therefore the V1 was the better overall choice for lower speed players since they produced lower spin with the lower swing speed (but did a higher loft driver increase spin? - only the launch monitor knows).

The V1x was a little firmer to compress and as a result, higher speed players produced lower spin off the tee with it.

At least, that is what I was led to believe all these long, long years...

Same here. A rep told me the X works best with 100+ ss generally speaking, as there are always exceptions. I feel that at a shade over 100 I can compress it. If it is below 60 degrees out I will favor the V1. Now the Nike 20XI X is a different story.

[Pakoh]

how come i cant find this deal online?  can someone link it please?  thank you*

[iacas]

Originally Posted by Mr. Desmond

I always thought the V1x was a little more difficult for lower speed players to compress off the tee, therefore the V1 was the better overall choice for lower speed players since they produced lower spin with the lower swing speed (but did a higher loft driver increase spin? - only the launch monitor knows).

The V1x was a little firmer to compress and as a result, higher speed players produced lower spin off the tee with it.

At least, that is what I was led to believe all these long, long years...

Originally Posted by TourSpoon

Same here. A rep told me the X works best with 100+ ss generally speaking, as there are always exceptions. I feel that at a shade over 100 I can compress it. If it is below 60 degrees out I will favor the V1. Now the Nike 20XI X is a different story.

Here's the simple truth as it applies to virtually all golf balls ever made, ever, period.

A firmer golf ball will ALWAYS have a higher ball speed.

It will tend to launch a teeny tiny bit lower, and will tend to spin a little more (which may result in higher peak height despite the teeny tiny bit lower launch).

So a Pro V1x will always launch at a faster ball speed for the given impact conditions than a Pro V1.

It's simply a question of does the slightly added spin from a softer ball let the ball have a little more lift and thus carry a little farther?

That's how virtually all of these balls work - like the B330 line. Their "slower swing speed" balls spin more and thus carry a bit farther, but they will have a slower ball speed if they're a lower compression ball.

P.S. Balls don't "compress" much at all. They deform.

[mchepp]

how come i cant find this deal online?  can someone link it please?  thank you*

I had to order them through my club. Maybe a site like tgw or golfsmith can do it, but likely a local golf club can do it as well.

[Pakoh]

I bought them last year when they had the same deal around spring. Was hoping they do that every spring.

[Pakoh]

looks like they just released it to the public today.  Got 10 emails in my junk folder from every golf site. :)

[grubby98]

tgw.com has the deal right now. I think it comes out to like 3 dollars a ball and you get to customize it as well by putting a name on it.

[boogielicious]

I've used both last years models but ended up with the ProV1 because I could get longer approach shots to stop better (like 6-8 irons).  I didn't notice much difference off the tee.