• Announcements

    • iacas

      Introducing TST "Clubs!"   08/28/2017

      No, we're not getting into the equipment business, but we do have "clubs" here on TST now. Groups. Check them out here:
Sign in to follow this  
RightEdge

Were we wrong?? Kid Got First Birdie and We Yelled

Recommended Posts

I was playing at a local golf course that I use to practice about 2-3 days a week. Well my wife, my son and I were putting on hole #2 a par 3 where we had hit the green.  Well my son made this long put for a birdie and when he did we were so excited at his improvement we all let out a big cheer!  Well on the next tee box over were some older guys 60+ that were on another par 3 trying to tee off.

We didn't even know they were there honestly.  They were behind us and we didn't even see them.

This guy actually turned around and screamed across the tee box at us telling us to shut up and respect other players on the course. Being the guy that I am, I didn't escalate the situation but it took everything I had not to tell that guy off for screaming across at me and my son.  I quietly explained to my son that you should respect others on the golf course and we moved on to the next tee.

It ruined my son's first birdie and I think it turned him off of golf somewhat because of that. He was visibly sad about that.

My questions is who was wrong? Was it us for letting out a loud cheer while others were on the tee or was it him for acting like an a$$?

~RightEdge

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sign up (or log in) today! It's free (and you won't see this ad anymore)!

Sign up (or log in) today! It's free (and you won't see this ad anymore)!

Ironic that a guy scolded you for being loud by...being loud. :doh:

You were fine. As long as you aren't constantly being loud and obnoxious, no one should have any beef with you.

On another note, welcome to The Sand Trap. It's a great community filled with tons of information, so stick around.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Yeah you're fine.  There's expecting others to maintain some golf etiquette, and there's just being an a-hole.  The other guy's the latter.  Like @geauxforbroke said, if your group is all drunk and screaming the whole round, then that's lame.  But playing with family and friends and cheering each other on and enjoying yourselves when one of you sinks a long birdie putt or tough pitch or stiffs a tough pin is part of the point of playing at all!  Of course, if you're all plus handicaps and carry on whenever you hit a GIR, then...

Hope your son gets over it.  Let him know that it's just there are grouchy oldsters everywhere and some of them feel particularly free to be a-holes on the golf course.  Too bad it marred his first birdie experience.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

That guy was an arsehole and needs to learn a little about respect himself. I'm not an aggressive guy by nature but if some prick ruins my kid's "feel good" moment i suspect we would have had an altercation of sorts. Total prick.

Welcome to the Sandtrap, we got your back! ;-)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I would have told him to either hurry the hell up or let me play through, because I would not be that close to another group unless they were really slow.

Obviously I don't have a son to worry about though. If they were on a different hole I don't think it's a problem, but some people will try to make a confrontation out of anything. I wouldn't have gotten so pissed off if it happened to me, because I don't consider a man with his wife and son to be worth yelling at. If anything I'd congratulate the kid for making the putt.

At any rate, welcome to the site!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Unfortunantly i would say your group was in the wrong.  It is never ok to yell since it is disrespectful.  With that being said though, i was with a friend who hit a hole in one and threw his club and yelled for what seemed to be forever.  The groups behind us and in front of us all said something to us.  We apologized and knew we were in the wrong for screaming but that did not take away the great shot.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Who the hell are we?  Monks in a cell?  I believe all are permitted to express personal and spontaneous  joy in a reasonable manner consistent with age or maturity.  But this expression is OKed only once per round, except for holes-in-one where for each hole in one, 3 seconds of joy is permitted. Club tossing never OK.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I wouldnt sweat it, the greens adjacent to some of our tee boxes arent exactly close and I will often hear an f-bomb screamed out due to a missed putt while i am teeing off. I have never even thought of yelling back at them.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I was playing at a local golf course that I use to practice about 2-3 days a week. Well my wife, my son and I were putting on hole #2 a par 3 where we had hit the green.  Well my son made this long put for a birdie and when he did we were so excited at his improvement we all let out a big cheer!  Well on the next tee box over were some older guys 60+ that were on another par 3 trying to tee off.

We didn't even know they were there honestly.  They were behind us and we didn't even see them.

This guy actually turned around and screamed across the tee box at us telling us to shut up and respect other players on the course. Being the guy that I am, I didn't escalate the situation but it took everything I had not to tell that guy off for screaming across at me and my son.  I quietly explained to my son that you should respect others on the golf course and we moved on to the next tee.

It ruined my son's first birdie and I think it turned him off of golf somewhat because of that. He was visibly sad about that.

My questions is who was wrong? Was it us for letting out a loud cheer while others were on the tee or was it him for acting like an a$$?

~RightEdge

I think that we have all done it, and I (or my group if it was one of them) have received dirty looks before too, and occasionally snide remarks just loud enough to hear.  When it happens I usually look around immediately to see if anyone is nearby, and I will apologize if so.

Etiquette can be a very touchy subject, and the foundation of etiquette is showing respect for the course and for other players.  Letting out an unrestrained yell is poor etiquette.  I generally do nothing now but a little fist pump when something good like that happens.  I get to express my feelings without risking the ire of other players.  I'm a big fan of teaching all new players etiquette before any other rules.

By the way, the other guys were equally at fault for yelling back and possibly bothering other players.  Everyone stepped a little bit out of bounds in this one.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Watch any pro tournament and you'll hear cheering at one hole while someone else on a nearby hole is surrounded by quiet people. Par for the game.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You did nothing wrong. Congratulations to your son, and welcome to the site. Stick around and make a little noise here! :beer:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Since when did golf etiquette include not cheering when something spectacular occurs.

Those guys were total  a_ holes.

I would have told them to go f off.

If that had been a group of 4 guys and one of them made a spectacular putt for a birdie and the three others cheered I bet those a holes would not dared to have said anything.

I can't stand people like that.

Total a_holes.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Unfortunantly i would say your group was in the wrong.  It is never ok to yell since it is disrespectful.  With that being said though, i was with a friend who hit a hole in one and threw his club and yelled for what seemed to be forever.  The groups behind us and in front of us all said something to us.  We apologized and knew we were in the wrong for screaming but that did not take away the great shot.

Holly shit I wouldn't want to run into guys like you on a golf course.

Celebrating a long birdie putt is being disrespectful.

Give me a break.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If some cranky old fart yelled at my 10 year old daughter for doing something great like a birdie or hole in one he would be apologizing to her soon after.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Unfortunantly i would say your group was in the wrong.  It is never ok to yell since it is disrespectful.  With that being said though, i was with a friend who hit a hole in one and threw his club and yelled for what seemed to be forever.  The groups behind us and in front of us all said something to us.  We apologized and knew we were in the wrong for screaming but that did not take away the great shot.

Well ...........................do we send smoke signals saying  FORE when a ball is flying at someones head? I just have one thing to say to people who get all uptight over some noise that is not meant to disturb them but they somehow feel they have the right to tell others to quiet down, get that stick out of your ass. I can't believe it when people think the whole course needs to be dead silent when they are over the ball like that makes some kind of difference. I'm on board if it's a bunch of drunk loud mouths who think just because they paid that they can act however they please but normal noise happens. I will say this though I'm a bit spoiled where I play the course is in the middle of nowhere with just the one road to the clubhouse and no roads or houses within 5 miles, you can hear the group behind talking when your on the green and they are on the tee of a par 5 sometimes.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So all of you are okay with me letting out a whoop of joy in the middle of your backswing on the next tee, causing you to dribble your drive 10 feet off the tee box?  Or would you just not count that one and take a mulligan?

I can't believe that you all believe that this is proper behavior on the course.  If that is the case, then you are part of the problem with the erosion of etiquette in today's players.  It's okay to do these things as long as you're having fun, regardless of the fact that your version of fun may detract from the next group's idea of what makes for a pleasant round.  I guess that it's also okay to not bother with repairing your pitch marks, since that isn't really any fun either.

Crowd noise at a professional tournament is a completely different animal.  It's an expected and unavoidable situation, and for the most part never happens on the adjacent parts of the course, because the players stand and wait until another player has hit before addressing their own shots.  And the players themselves don't holler and scream when they do something exceptional.  They treat others with the same respect that they hope to receive themselves.

I'm not stupid - I don't expect golf to be played in total silence, but I do expect a group to try and keep any boisterous behavior contained within their own space.as much as possible.  That is just one facet of good etiquette.  Understandably, slip ups will happen, but saying that it's an acceptable and proper act is still wrong.

Maybe you need to show me just what it is that entitles you to act in a way that diminishes my round.  A quiet murmur of conversation 300 yards away is very different from someone letting out a scream 100 feet from you in the middle of your backswing.  I don't see a tell of joy as being any different from hollering an expletive when something bad happens.  both at equally improper.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

The old folk set seem to have a sense of entitlement every where they go because they are, well ... old.  I see it, but I don't agree with it at all.

Golf is supposed to be fun, like enjoying the birdie your son made.  Don't think twice about what happened.  It's over and done with.  You did the right thing by explaining to your son why the comment was made by the other players on the course.  End of discussion.  Back to enjoying your family on the course.

dave

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

Sign in to follow this  



  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • 2017 TST Partners

    Talamore Golf Resort
    PING Golf
    FlightScope Mevo
    Mission Belt
    Snell Golf
    Frogger Golf
    PitchFix USA
  • Posts

    • I've spent the week of Thanksgiving in Pinehuerst (at Talamore, actually) every year since 2007.  We've had a very few frost delays, and most years its really pleasant.  We've played in shorts lots of times.  Myrtle Beach will be about the same, or slightly warmer. Its a great time for either, not at all crowded, less slow play problems, easier to get a seat in a restaurant, you'll love it.  If you decide on Pinehurst, I can recommend a few good places.
    • I have these too, I like the look.  I really doubt that there's any advantage to be gained.
    • You could vote 0 if that number is closer to the percentage than 1. That's why there's a "0" option.
    • I'm still recovering from my golf marathon, but I'll write just a little bit now.  First and foremost, this was an absolute blast, thanks to the huge effort of the organizers, @mvmac and @iacas, to the sponsors, to the staff at Talamore and MidSouth, and to the attitude and efforts of all of the players.  I was lucky enough this past week to play with every one of my teammates (when I count my pre- and post-tournament fun rounds), and against every player on the West team except for @Golfingdad.  Ten matches total for the 2015 and 2017 Newport Cups, and I haven't been in the group with him once.  Fortunately, I've been able to play with him in Palm Springs a couple of times. I loved the matches, from watching @Pretzel and @phillyk bomb it almost off the planet, to watching my partner @bkuehn1952 sink every putt inside 10 feet (keeping the pressure off of me), to seeing @mchepp try to grind me to dust, one crumb at a time.  I enjoyed the mix  of personalities, the wide range of ages, over 40 years from top to bottom, the huge variations in our golf games.  I'm REALLY happy that the top end of the ages was victorious in the end.  I'm absolutely amazed that the end result was this close once again, although it may just be an indication that we all have reasonably accurate handicaps.   As someone mentioned earlier in this thread, a few of us blue team players talked about the challenge balls on Friday night, with most of it being less than completely enthusiastic.  As it turned out, however, I thought the challenge was pretty exhilarating, really ramping up the pressure.  Of course, my match on Saturday with @mchepp was nothing but pressure to start with, I'm not sure I needed to ramp it up any more.  You know, for us old guys, a heart attack on 18 tee wouldn't be a good thing.   Enough for now.  Once again, my thanks go out to @iacas and @mvmac, the sponsors, the venues, the players, and especially to @RandallT for keeping my lovely wife informed.
    • I'm the new guy here on this forum, so I imagine this debate has been going on for awhile so I'll just respectfully respond to this by giving my opinion on the matter: Bull-feathers! There are four things that determine the distance you hit a golf ball; the loft angle on the clubhead, the length of the club, the speed of your swing, and how close to the center sweet spot you connect with the ball. Everything else, IMO, is marketing BS. But as I said at the very beginning of this thread, my swing is not the same as it was 16 years ago when I got my X-14's so I'll be buying something. What that something is at this point I'm still not 100% certain.  
  • Blog Entries

  • Today's Birthdays

  • Get Great Gear with Amazon