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  1. 1. Who wins?

    • Floyd Mayweather
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    • Manny Pacquiao
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And I saw there are possible repercussions for Pacquiao because he didn't tell NAC about the shoulder injury? Also saw something about Mayweather saying he'd be willing to fight Pacquiao again. Fool me once... *actually I wasn't fooled the first time but still*

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And I saw there are possible repercussions for Pacquiao because he didn't tell NAC about the shoulder injury? Also saw something about Mayweather saying he'd be willing to fight Pacquiao again. Fool me once... *actually I wasn't fooled the first time but still*

It's pretty bad if he didn't report the injury, especially with legalized gambling in Vegas, makes the whole fight seem shady.  If it was public knowledge he had a torn rotator cuff prior to the fight no one would have put any action on Pacquiao to win and I'm sure a lot less people would have paid $100 for the PPV.

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Rematch?  I hope not, for the sake of boxing.   Two local Mexican fighters will provide better excitement than Mayweather vs anyone.   If you you think boxing is boring, watch the Mexicans (I don't mean Hispanics living in US) fight.   I don't think they are trained to take a backward step.   At least that's how it was during my days.

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It's pretty bad if he didn't report the injury, especially with legalized gambling in Vegas, makes the whole fight seem shady.  If it was public knowledge he had a torn rotator cuff prior to the fight no one would have put any action on Pacquiao to win and I'm sure a lot less people would have paid $100 for the PPV.

I understand not wanting to let your opponent know you are hurt, but what you said makes a lot of sense. The article I read mentioned that the USADA knew about it but they never told the NAC about it. Also that he would have been fine if he'd been able to get a shot of toradol which the USADA had permitted him to use during training and was listed on the medications he was on/may use the night of the fight. Regardless, they marked "no" to any injury to the shoulder on the prefight paperwork so he technically lied. Not sure what'll actually come of all this but just one more reason why this fight was meh at best.

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Originally Posted by newtogolf

It's pretty bad if he didn't report the injury, especially with legalized gambling in Vegas, makes the whole fight seem shady.  If it was public knowledge he had a torn rotator cuff prior to the fight no one would have put any action on Pacquiao to win and I'm sure a lot less people would have paid $100 for the PPV.

I understand not wanting to let your opponent know you are hurt, but what you said makes a lot of sense. The article I read mentioned that the USADA knew about it but they never told the NAC about it. Also that he would have been fine if he'd been able to get a shot of toradol which the USADA had permitted him to use during training and was listed on the medications he was on/may use the night of the fight. Regardless, they marked "no" to any injury to the shoulder on the prefight paperwork so he technically lied. Not sure what'll actually come of all this but just one more reason why this fight was meh at best.

I am somewhat skeptical of the whole claim.   It sounds too much like a self serving reason for a rematch.  I like PAC but with so much money riding on it for so many people (managers, trainers, organizers, ....), this injury claim isn't looking right.    If PAC really wanted to win and was injured enough to effect the fight , he should have postponed the fight.   If the injury was good enough to fight, then there should be no controversy (or revealing of his injury) afterward.   As a former boxer, I can't imagine stepping into a ring with a severe injury.   My fear of getting knocked out will prevent me from getting into a ring what less than full deck.

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I am somewhat skeptical of the whole claim.   It sounds too much like a self serving reason for a rematch.  I like PAC but with so much money riding on it for so many people (managers, trainers, organizers, ....), this injury claim isn't looking right.    If PAC really wanted to win and was injured enough to effect the fight , he should have postponed the fight.   If the injury was good enough to fight, then there should be no controversy (or revealing of his injury) afterward.   As a former boxer, I can't imagine stepping into a ring with a severe injury.   My fear of getting knocked out will prevent me from getting into a ring what less than full deck.

I hear the argument but $120mm big ones would help me overcome the fear of a knockout purty quick.

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Originally Posted by rkim291968

I am somewhat skeptical of the whole claim.   It sounds too much like a self serving reason for a rematch.  I like PAC but with so much money riding on it for so many people (managers, trainers, organizers, ....), this injury claim isn't looking right.    If PAC really wanted to win and was injured enough to effect the fight, he should have postponed the fight.   If the injury was good enough to fight, then there should be no controversy (or revealing of his injury) afterward.   As a former boxer, I can't imagine stepping into a ring with a severe injury.   My fear of getting knocked out will prevent me from getting into a ring what less than full deck.

I hear the argument but $120mm big ones would help me overcome the fear of a knockout purty quick.


Yeah?   I would have postponed it and get that $120mm a month later ;-) and retire with a win.

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The only reason I think there is any validity to Pac being less than 100% is the first Erik Morales fight he had back in 2005, he did not look anything like the fighter I have seen prior to this match and he lost a 12 round decision. Later after the fight he came out and said he was not feeling well or something was not right with his training leading up to the fight which led to a less than expected performance, in the 2 rematches that followed he totally dominated Morales which convinced me Manny doesn't bring anything up regarding his training or conditioning unless it's legitimate, his losses to Bradley and Marquez did he say there was a problem? No. Now do I expect a vastly different match than the first one? No I think it will be much the same but I think Manny will outwork Floyd a lot more and be able to win at least 3-5 more rounds and possibly get a split decision or a close majority. There will be a rematch simply because there is still a mountain of cash to be made because of the doubt Mannys injury and surgery right after create.

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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing/no-sanction-fee--no-wbo-title-for-floyd-mayweather-011247890.html

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Mayweather failed to pay the $200,000 sanction fee required by the World Boxing Organization for the belt he won on May 2 when he defeated Manny Pacquiao at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas by the deadline, which was the end of the business day on Friday. So on Monday, the Puerto Rico-based organization stripped Mayweather of its title .

It elevated Timothy Bradley, who defeated Jessie Vargas on June 27 for the interim championship, to full champion status.

WBO rules require boxers to pay 3 percent of their purse in order to fight for a world title, with a minimum of $1,000 and a maximum of $200,000 for fighters like Mayweather who earn extraordinary large purses.

ROTFL!!! :-$:doh:

The guy is worth over $400 million and he can't pay the $200,000 sanction fee. I bet who ever F'd that up is fired. No way Mayweather comes out and says, "My bad."

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[URL=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing/no-sanction-fee--no-wbo-title-for-floyd-mayweather-011247890.html]http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing/no-sanction-fee--no-wbo-title-for-floyd-mayweather-011247890.html[/URL] ROTFL!!!  :-$ :doh: The guy is worth over $400 million and he can't pay the $200,000 sanction fee. I bet who ever F'd that up is fired. No way Mayweather comes out and says, "My bad."

Haha! Sucker.

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Originally Posted by saevel25

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing/no-sanction-fee--no-wbo-title-for-floyd-mayweather-011247890.html

ROTFL!!!

The guy is worth over $400 million and he can't pay the $200,000 sanction fee. I bet who ever F'd that up is fired. No way Mayweather comes out and says, "My bad."

Haha! Sucker.

I don't think it was the $200,000 fee.  I believe he also had to vacate some other belts.

Not certain, but I think I read that on ESPN yesterday.

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I'm not sure he cares what they do.. Now, I don't know how it works. It do they send someone to grab the belt from him? Or do they just make a new one and give it to the new champ (that didn't earn it by the way) ;)

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Mayweather has always said he fights for dollars not titles, he knows about losing them and doesn't care, he said he wants the younger guys to have them since they mean nothing to him.

On another note this was a closer fight than some may think especially Mayweather fans, Pacquiao has a much better defense than some may think, he may get touched by his opponents gloves but being hit doesn't happen near as often as some may think.

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