Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
iacas

Your Course's Handicap Committee

Note: This thread is 1506 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Handicap Committee  

26 members have voted

  1. 1. Do you know much about your course's handicap committee?

    • I am on the handicap committee!
      3
    • I know the members of the committee.
      7
    • I know the chairman.
      1
    • I think I know a little about the committee? Maybe?
      2
    • I know nothing about the committee.
      13


26 posts / 1815 viewsLast Reply

Recommended Posts

I haven't met with the handicap committee and only know their names because an e-mail was sent out stating who they were for this year. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

@iacas  and @DaveP043

Would you share your knowledge or thoughts of the duties a HC committee person does during meetings.
At our club they meet monthly and review dates when golfers are on the tee sheets and reference score posting of individuals.

They will send emails to golfers who do not post a score, requesting their score on such given day/dates. Apparently, many members were slacking or neglecting to post.

They would seldom check accuracy of scores being posted which I feel is a higher priority. Many members do not use ESC or did not have knowledge of the purpose ESC. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

28 minutes ago, Club Rat said:

At our club they meet monthly and review dates when golfers are on the tee sheets and reference score posting of individuals. They will send emails to golfers who do not post a score, requesting their score on such given day/dates. Apparently, many members were slacking or neglecting to post.

Interesting that the Committee is that involved in checking for posted scores.  We eventually decided to post our tournament scores for our members (part of the software package we purchased for recording and calculating the tournament results).  Cajoling and pressing the members to post was more work than just taking over the job.  We have not figured out a way to check on the posting of non-tournament scores.  We know people are playing outside our events but documenting the activity has proven to be impossible.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

1 hour ago, Club Rat said:

@iacas  and @DaveP043

Would you share your knowledge or thoughts of the duties a HC committee person does during meetings.
At our club they meet monthly and review dates when golfers are on the tee sheets and reference score posting of individuals.

They will send emails to golfers who do not post a score, requesting their score on such given day/dates. Apparently, many members were slacking or neglecting to post.

They would seldom check accuracy of scores being posted which I feel is a higher priority. Many members do not use ESC or did not have knowledge of the purpose ESC. 

I mentioned this in another thread, but will repeat it here.  At my club, we went without an appropriate HC for the first 20 years of the club's existence.  I can't say whether it was lack of interest or knowledge on the part of the members, or lack of organizational effort on the part of the head pro.  The result is that this year, we're doing our best to break some old bad habits.  That means that at this stage, our first prority is getting the members to post all of their scores.  Our procedure is to check the computerized records of play and the handwritten tee sheets against Ghin records of scores posted, and find out who's not posting their scores.  We notify members, either by email of face to face, remind them to post, etc.  Eventually, we'll get most people posting, or they'll let us know that they don't want to maintain a handicap.  For the remainder, we'll start a more formal process of notification, and then posting actual and/or penalty scores.  Eventually they'll get the message, I hope.

As for checking the accuracy of the scores, that's a secondary priority.  We WILL keep tournament scorecards and check those for ESC, and launch an educational effort where required.  Longer term, we'll ask that scorecards for casual play be turned in occasionally, and do the same there.  A difficulty in checking those scorecards is that the HC is not allowed to require that all cards be turned in.  We can do it for a player whose handicap has been modified or withdrawn, but for general play we can only request them.  http://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/Handicapping/handicap-manual.html#!decision-14379

@bkuehn1952, our club keeps a computerized record of who plays on which days, whether they walk or ride a cart.  We also keep the handwritten tee sheets, and the pro shop staff makes specific notes when they know a player is going out alone.  I can compare those to the Ghin records pretty easily.  I now have Admin rights to our club's Ghin records, so I can get whatever reports I want to have.  Its definitely a hassle to try to train people to post properly, but most of our members are pretty accepting of our efforts, they see it as helping make play more fair.  For the remainder, we'll end up posting a couple of penalty scores, and they'll eventually fall in line, I hope.  If they choose not to post properly, they'll have to live without a USGA handicap.  From 8-4 of the Handicap Manual:

Quote

A player must earn a Handicap Index. No player has an inherent right to a Handicap Index without providing full evidence of ability to the golf club's Handicap Committee.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

19 minutes ago, DaveP043 said:

 

... our club keeps a computerized record of who plays on which days, whether they walk or ride a cart.  We also keep the handwritten tee sheets, and the pro shop staff makes specific notes when they know a player is going out alone.  I can compare those to the Ghin records pretty easily.  I now have Admin rights to our club's Ghin records, so I can get whatever reports I want to have.  Its definitely a hassle to try to train people to post properly, but most of our members are pretty accepting of our efforts, they see it as helping make play more fair.  For the remainder, we'll end up posting a couple of penalty scores, and they'll eventually fall in line, I hope.  If they choose not to post properly, they'll have to live without a USGA handicap.  From 8-4 of the Handicap Manual:

 

Our problem is we are a club-without-real-estate.  The only time our members are together is for the tournaments we run.  If a player only plays our tournaments and never plays a postable round elsewhere, then we have the data.  On the other hand, if a player chooses to play a round at Leslie Park Golf Course with 2-4 non-members, there is no way for us to check whether he posted or not.

We continue to beat the drum about posting scores outside our tournaments.  Most members seem to hear us and post non-tournament rounds but ultimately we have no ability to assure compliance.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

50 minutes ago, bkuehn1952 said:

We continue to beat the drum about posting scores outside our tournaments.  Most members seem to hear us and post non-tournament rounds but ultimately we have no ability to assure compliance.

I can understand the problems you face.  We have the same issue when someone plays at another course, whether its in the area or when they're on vacation, we have no way to check them.  I really think the bulk of our members are pretty honest, and do their best to post properly.  While there's often good-natured talk about tournament winners being sandbaggers, we don't see anyone winning consistently enough to earn real suspicion.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

22 hours ago, iacas said:

Describe your course's handicap committee. Who are the members? Who is the chairman? Do they meet? Have you ever interacted with them?

If you don't know, say that.

We dont have a handicap committee.
One of the guys in my league collects dues for GHIN, which we enter ourselves.
This same person is working on setting up a computer in the pro-less "proshop" so golfers can enter their handicap before they leave the course!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I am pretty certain one of the clubs I play league in does not have a committee. The other seems to be addressing some concerns about handicaps but I cannot confirm 100% that they have a committee. From my perspective I only care if they try to make league play more competitive since I don't actually belong to the club. For most public courses I would think it would be a lot tougher for them to have committees as the number of club members is usually much smaller than a private course.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Note: This thread is 1506 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Sign in to follow this  



  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • TST Affiliates

    SuperSpeed
    TourStriker PlaneMate
    Golfer's Journal
    FlightScope Mevo
    Use the code "iacas" for 10% off Mevo
  • Posts

    • Another driving range session.  Just worked on keeping the swing shorter and flattened off more in this video. This swing I added the arms coming down sooner in the swing. I was seeing if that helped shorten the swing.  *On a side note, I am standing a bit too close to the ball.    Tried working on the driver, but couldn't replicate the shorter swing feel when trying to work on the flatter feel. I feel like the timing is off and I need the extra swing length to feel the club shallower. I like the practice backswings.  This swing I added a bit of trying to keep my back foot on the ground longer. Just kinda wanted to see if it would help me feel like I had more room to swing down with the hands. Just took a flier at this feel.    The feels for most of these swings were let the turn carry the club up to A3 with some left wrist hinge. Maybe feel like the left hand stays facing the ground a bit from A1 to A2. Then at A3, feel like I start the downswing by bringing the hands down and out towards the ball.  I think I need to be mindful of my alignment (distance from the ball).  If I could stop by backswing here..  I really like this spot at impact... I really like this position with the 6 iron... If it was just a smidge flatter.  This impact position is pretty good.. It's the most my hips and shoulders have been open at impact. 
    • Uhh...it’s ‘Kens’. 😡
    • Riverpines Golf Club - 69.4/127 - Par 70 - Blue Tees So, I did the thing again... that thing where I break 90... and shot an 87 on a tight, heavily wooded course that I've only played a couple of times, and had not played in about two-and-a-half years.  It was also the first time in that same length of time since I putted on bentgrass greens, which I did pretty well. I managed to get around the course with only four double bogeys, and one of those was on a par five where I attempted to lay-up with a seven-iron, and discovered that it was too much club.  Otherwise, I hit a bunch of really good iron shots with everything in the bag, and I only really struggled with the driver.  I only hit six fairways, but I managed to make up for it with some really good approach shots that either got me on the green, or close to it.  I only hit three greens in regulation, but I was around greens in regulation - fringe, bunker, etc. - 11 times.  I didn't hit a single poor iron shot all day.  The only poor results were a result of not knowing my yardages, which I plan on dealing with.  I also was using my old AP-1s, which are not as forgiving or long as my G30s, but I was still hitting them a long way.  With their narrower sole, I was worried about hitting shots fat, but I hit them really crisply all day.  Putting was a bit of an issue, but most of the misses were due to pace on the bentgrass greens.  I had 33 putts, and only three putted twice.  Of course, those numbers are a bit skewed with putts, chips, and pitches from around the greens, but I hit several really good putts, both from distance, as well as from six to ten feet.  I made five clutch par putts, and only two of them were less than five feet.  Another positive that I took from this round is that I scored a stroke better on the back than I did on the front, and it was really hot and humid. Confidence is growing... and my handicap is shrinking... down from 22.5 to 21.7.  I feel like if I go back out to Pine Hills now, that I will shoot in the low 80s, or possibly even break 80.
    • Regarding stigma, I think those days are passing. Years ago when graphite iron shafts were beginning to surface you have to remember the technologies for producing graphite were not as roust as today. So you had numerous graphite shafts that had tip breakage, out of round (created a whole "spine your shaft business model" and inconsistent weighting from shaft to shaft. So none of the top players would commit to something so hit or miss. Plus the "feel" was nowhere near what generations of golfers were use to with steel shafts. In more recent times the graphite/carbon fiber technologies have exceeded steel capabilities in most areas. I volunteer for a senior Champions Tour event, I see as many irons with steelfibers as TT or KBS. So I think graphite is on par with steel irons shafts. I mean think about it, graphite took away steel shafts in woods, its only a matter of time regarding irons/wedges. I like having a choice with both as I am all about feel. But I think those in the know understand that graphite has its advantages when fit properly. 
  • TST Blog Entries

  • Blog Entries

  • Today's Birthdays

    1. abjadoon
      abjadoon
      (33 years old)
    2. rustbelt
      rustbelt
      (67 years old)
    3. shopsexactly569
      shopsexactly569
      (35 years old)
    4. smithjack
      smithjack
      (29 years old)

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.

The popup will be closed in 10 seconds...