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If you guys are interested in seeing some examples of Dana teaching, he regularly makes Facebook live posts of 5-10 minute snippets of his lessons.

https://www.facebook.com/dahlquistgolf

@Taigolf, you bring up some good points. Before I respond to what you posted I want to clarify that Dana's online academy, the content/information, a lot of it are his "baseline" preferences. It's what he feels happens in a good golf swing, it's not "how you need to swing", those are very different things. Reason the "over the shoulder" and online lessons are good to watch to see how the instruction differs.

16 hours ago, Taigolf said:

I see some difference on Dana's method.  On the transition, he said to have the weight (presure?) still on the right leg creting a bowing squat position,

Yes and no. Every instructor has their preferences and with Dana he wants to make sure the pressure doesn't get forward too early. While Dana works with high handicap golfers he also works with many low handicap and professional players where having the pressure forward too soon can be an issue. Dana prefers this sequencing because it allows his players to rotate and "use the ground" effectively. It's also what he sees with good players when they're measured on force plates and on 3D systems.

Similar to what Dave (and @iacas)  talk about in this video when Dave says the pressure "settles" early in transition before it moves forward. Dana is just emphasizing this occurrence because of what he has learned from his and other's research and personal experience working with a lot of good players.

 

16 hours ago, Taigolf said:

also mention not to have the right forearm coming down as the move is by the pivot.  This seems difference with the teaching on "how to create lag..." where it was mention that we should lower the right forearm on the transition,

The "how to create lag" video I did focused on the shoulder motion and trail arm, but I don't think I recommended the trail arm to have an "active" role. I think I said something along the lines that the trail arm just lowers, stays "wide" as the left side stays lower in transition as the weight goes forward.

With Dana he typically wants students to be more pivot (left side stays low) and rotation focused with the arms being more passive but the trail arm is still going external (what I describe in the video).

16 hours ago, Taigolf said:

move the pressure forward, then move up to create power..

Yes and with Dana it's keep the pressure back as you rotate and then thrust forward and up. The end goal is the same (5 or 6-10), difference is in how much you emphasize the "settling" move from 4-5. Dana gets many of his good players to feel the pressure stay "back" longer into the downswing. The audience I had in mind for that video was geared towards golfers that struggle with contact and keeping the pressure back in transition isn't on the short list of priorities for them.

16 hours ago, Taigolf said:

It seems to me that Dana's is using a Right Anchor pivot on the transition, and he is saying this is the right thing to swing or create power.  Maybe both method is correct and depends on the person?

Yes it depends on the student in front of you.

I've seen Dana in give lessons that are similar to the "over the shoulder" content on the site but this doesn't mean that every lesson he gives or that every students gets the same advice. I've also seen Dana give lessons where he's emphasizing feeling centered on the backswing and moving the weight forward immediately from the start of the downswing. Just as he's had some players feel steep shoulders on the downswing while others feel level shoulders. 

4 hours ago, nevets88 said:

I'm guessing Dahlquist has been teaching the "move" for awhile.

Yes, see the video @Golfingdad posted.

4 hours ago, nevets88 said:

Gankas' demonstration of it is a little more extreme, there's a more protracted external rotation look, Dahlquist's looks calmer, more gradual, but they are both in the rotate before lateral camp. Not sure if that's something they'd give to a complete beginner who isn't hips too much towards to the target in transition, someone who is more experienced.

Yes, there are two ways you can go about it. George likes going dual external with both hips to create a "second fire" on the downswing. Dana's preference is more simple. Basically as the vertical force is being applied in a way that allows rotation and extension, it's all good. 

51 minutes ago, billchao said:

It's Sam Snead's squat move, so no, it's nothing new.

Not to get too off track here but I think the key to doing that move is through the pelvis and not just by pulling the knees apart. Obviously you also have to consider style versus function. Some players do need to feel that move while others don't.

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1 hour ago, Golfingdad said:

I doubt this one is included in his website due to the subject being just too darn handsome.

Yea understood. :-$

Too many big headed driver noise and loud planes overhead. ;-)

Love the term "cut pivot". Good thought for what I'm working on.

Thanks for posting.

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6 minutes ago, coachjimsc said:

Too many big headed driver noise and loud planes overhead. ;-)

This was El Dorado Golf Course in Long Beach  (@Big C's home course) and it is pretty close to the Long Beach Airport.

The drivers are probably from the kid behind me, who was getting the lesson right before mine and was a really good player.  I assume an aspiring college kid or something.  (You can see his swing at 4:22 or so)

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Thanks Michael for the in depth explanation, it's has clear a lot of the confusion.

I watch the video again, from the top to right forearm parellel (P4 to P5), the forearm has not release much, from parellel to P6 it has releasequite a bit.  The transition takes part from P4 to P5 and probably I have assume the right forearm actively release during this period. 

You mention "feel like the lowering or extending down, not feeling narrow, it's going to feel lower & releasing its bend downward", that should occur on P5 to P6 actively?


9 hours ago, billchao said:

It's Sam Snead's squat move, so no, it's nothing new.

That's exactly what the description sounded like to me as well. I've also seen vids of Sean Foley teaching the same move with the old "hold the beach ball between your knees" drill. Just drop the ball in transition.

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3 hours ago, Taigolf said:

You mention "feel like the lowering or extending down, not feeling narrow, it's going to feel lower & releasing its bend downward", that should occur on P5 to P6 actively?

Not actively, just "let it happen". But that thread is more educational and in response to "busting" the myth of creating more lag by getting narrow and "holding" the wrist angles.

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A little off topic but here is another instructor, Cogorno, demonstrating the move Dahlquist and Gankas described. 

 

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Came across this drill on the site and the timing was good for what I'm working on. I like the feel it gives me for the backswing, have to pivot in a way to "carry" and load the arms.

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Dana also shared some more FB live videos.

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Just an FYI for anyone who is a member, Dana has added a fair amount of new content since the launch, I'm usually pretty good with keeping up with these things and I'm behind, but it speaks to the number of videos he's adding. I will eagerly imbibe whatever new info that's available though, color me a happy subscriber. The adduction video is the one that bought out an ohhhh from me, was never clear on that concept.

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More great info, Mike you spoil us.

I'll be taking a look that's for sure, only thing that hampers me is I live in Scotland and the time difference bla bla bla......

This sites information has helped me greatly.


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I cancelled during the summer, recently signed up and there's a lot of new content, there's actually a new section just for new content along with new vids in the old sections. Looks like he's starting to make longer videos as well, longer than the 1-3 minutes. Lots to digest, learn and think on.

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I wish every great instructor is so knowledgable, humble and passionate as Dana Dahlquist is. I love his Instagram short videos.

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His latest lessons he is shooting both face on and down the line you see both simultaneously like stereoscopic and the camera angles are straight on (yeah, he's good with camera angles). So very useful. 

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So yeah, this is an old thread. I let my account there lapse for awhile but have still been following him on social media all these years and recently signed up again out of curiosty. A lot has changed since this thread was created. Mainly speed. And I guess more knowledge gleaned from GEARS.

His original site is still there. I tried signing up for the $50 month so I could binge it all, but couldn't find the option so just said, heck, paid 200 for the year. He has another site hitbombs which is all speed focused. That you can sign up for monthly, but there's a 7 day trial period.

I'm still just starting out going through both his sites, but the original seems to have been revamped organizationally and content-wise. I don't see the vids I originally saw day one, it's a little more streamlined and organized now, and some of the videos he is with Josh Koch. As always, you'll learn a thing or two watching him speak. I skipped to shallowing, downswing, and transition as that's what I'm focused on at the moment. Hitbombs there seems to be less material but I haven't looked at it much yet. Will update as I go through more content.

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OK, so far, I'm glad I re-upped to see his new material. I'm the kind of person who has to know the why of everything and very detail oriented so this barrage of information which can be a lot, I just find it really interesting.

In the Patterns section, I've gone through Fundamentals (which is available for free), Contact, Shallowing (Micro and Macro). Some highlights, he says you don't have to necessarily point the shaft outside the ball at A5, it depends on the swing. He shows a way to pivot where the lead foot jumps off the ground and goes towards 9 o'clock, if 12 o'clock is your target line, and then there's for a moment a lot of pressure on the back foot. Also something called overlapping which basically abduction of the shoulder happening during the back and downswing.

 

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