An Example of Bad Instruction

[BaconNEggs]

On 8/9/2017 at 10:36 PM, saevel25 said:

You claim volume is insufficient. Yet, two of use both can hear it clearly not even close to the highest level. The video was adequately viewable and understandable. 

The video was understandable, I'm not sure the lesson was though! I did have to crank the volume to hear him, but I don't get what he was saying. I mean I get the words he was using... it was English... but I'm not grasping the point, or what he was trying to fix, apart from mentioning chicken wings. 

[iacas]

On 8/11/2017 at 0:59 PM, BaconNEggs said:

The video was understandable, I'm not sure the lesson was though! I did have to crank the volume to hear him, but I don't get what he was saying. I mean I get the words he was using... it was English... but I'm not grasping the point, or what he was trying to fix, apart from mentioning chicken wings. 

Hence the title of this topic…

[Grizvok]

So I'm currently reading through Golf magazine and this "back to basics" two page instruction piece is about how standing up through impact/losing spine angle aka "humping the goat" is often a product of an improper hip turn during the backswing in which, according to the author, high-handicappers tend to move the hips towards the target too much which causes the downswing to be too steep and your body lifts up a few moments before impact in an attempt to correct this.

So @iacas recently linked me to the Golf Tec numbers which showed that in fact high-handicapper's hips tend to move less on average towards the target (I believe it was 1.5" give or take towards for the amateurs vs 3.3" or so for the pros) which is essentially a direct contradiction of what this article is trying to say is one of the most common causes of "humping the goat."

Bullshit?

[Jack Watson]

As much as I loathe crap instruction I still have to recommend that higher caps go to golf pros if they want to improve.  If,  after working on it pretty hard you feel no benefit,  express that sentiment to your pro and if the answer sucks move on.  Find a good one.

The idea that people can really do things by themselves in golf is a terrible alternative to seeking out a GOOD pro.  

YOU TUBE is the devil on that.  Books...most people are not gonna get it from books.  Instruction tailored to you is far more beneficial.

Imo,  even though I often disagree  with certain ideas,  professional instruction that is quality is worth its weight in gold.

The alternative to going to a pro is what?  Figure out swing mechanics on your own?  Think of it.

Yes bad instruction abounds but there's also a lot of good stuff available.

[todgot]

He's not saying hit balls with the thumb like that... just swing the club.  I guess the idea would be to weaken the right hand to feel more of the left hand and side.  That's what he's saying.  Of course, I've never given a golf tip on what appears to be live TV so it's hard to criticize but I had no idea what problem he was trying to help.  Not getting to the left side?  Then he started to get into a lot of other stuff so it was just confusing.  Then again... live TV tends to turn people into blabbering idiots... so I'm cutting the guy some slack. 

Here's the script I would have written for him...  "want a better way to feel what the left hand should be doing in the golf swing?  try this tip... move your thumb like this which really weakens your right hand.  Now, don't try to hit an actual golf ball like this because you'll likely end up with a broken thumb.  Just take some gentle swings and feel the weight of the club and what the left hand needs to do to keep it from flipping."  Or better yet,  take some swings with just your left hand on the club.   The end. 

I'm not saying any of the above is correct doctrine... just saying from a production point of view he needed to make it slower (he was talking kind of fast because he was nervous), simple and with less jargon. 

Just for fun we should all do a video giving a golf tip and critique it... maybe give an award for the best one?  funniest one?  most ridiculous one? 

[lastings]

On 8/5/2017 at 8:21 AM, b101 said:

 

Maybe he should do a piece on how the position of your third toe causes you to hit a draw next?

doesn't it?