Jump to content
IGNORED

At what hcp did you make the jump from the white to the blue tees ?


inthehole
Note: This thread is 4229 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Recommended Posts

I'm your average 235-240 yard driver kind of guy - I know I don't have the length (& will probably never have the length)  to play from the blue tees (no less the tips).     I was wondering when did you guys who play from the rearward tee's feel it was time to leave the white's and play further back ??

John

Fav LT Quote ... "you can talk to a fade, but a hook won't listen"

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I still play from the white tee's. Most of our local muni's have only white and blue. A few local courses have white, gold and black, in which I may move back to the gold. But for the most part I play white. I have came to a decision that when I can break 80 fairly consistent (which I have yet to do) it'll be time for me to take a step back to the big boy tee's.

Phillip

Link to comment
Share on other sites


I don't feel that it has anything to do with handicap.  It's about length.  I've always played from the middle tees,  or one back of middle, on just about every course I've played.  My length has suited me to 6000-6500 yards most of my life (depending on elevation - most of my golf has been in Colorado, so I lean toward the 6500 end of the range).

  • Upvote 1

Rick

"He who has the fastest cart will never have a bad lie."

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I only started playing the blues this year, when I made a commitment to improve. However, this was mainly due to most championship flight tournaments in my area being played from blue/gold tees. I still haven't worked up the courage to try the black tees at one of the courses near me, seeing's how they are 7300 yards, compared to 6900 from the golds. (5000 ft altitude though, so subtract about 300 yards from each to get what they play like at sea level, or something in the ballpark).

 

 

My bag:

Driver: G10 10.5* w/ Pro Launch Red Reg 

3 Wood: G10 w/ Pro Launch Red Reg 

18* and 21* hybrids: G10 with Pro Launch Red Stiff 

4-PW: Ping Eye 2 Irons w/ Reg GS 95 

56* and 60*: Tour-S Rustique Wedges w/ Stiff KBS Tour 

Putter: Scotty Cameron Pro Platinum Newport 

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites


I decided to make the jump when I noticed I hit my 5 iron 180+ yards. I now hit it a bit over 200, but I generally play tees of 6400 or longer when I play full length courses. I think it's more about distance than your handicap, but there is a requirement for getting off the tee reasonably well that can hurt new players.

I think one should play wider and more forgiving courses at a high handicap instead of playing really short ones. Honestly if there are no woods/OB you can spray the ball pretty bad and still make the green. But a short and tight course will take all day. At that level, any shot where you can find the ball is a good shot. To shoot bogey golf, you pretty much have to be able to get off the tee and hit consistent distances with your clubs, by this point you can decide which tees to play for yourself.

I dropped most of my handicap strokes since I moved up. I don't think the tees make that much difference for me; as long as they're 6400 or less, I have no real challenge reaching greens.

In My Bag:

Adams Super LS 9.5˚ driver, Aldila Phenom NL 65TX
Adams Super LS 15˚ fairway, Kusala black 72x
Adams Super LS 18˚ fairway, Aldila Rip'd NV 75TX
Adams Idea pro VST hybrid, 21˚, RIP Alpha 105x
Adams DHY 24˚, RIP Alpha 89x
5-PW Maltby TE irons, KBS C taper X, soft stepped once 130g
Mizuno T4, 54.9 KBS Wedge X
Mizuno R12 60.5, black nickel, KBS Wedge X
Odyssey Metal X #1 putter 
Bridgestone E5, Adidas samba bag, True Linkswear Stealth
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Color means nothing..... What's the yardage? I played a course last week where the whites were 6500 with a lot of elevation. Probably played close to 6700. I also regularly play courses where the blue tees are in the 6300 yd range. If you're hitting driver 235 you'll likely be able to play at 6300-6400 pretty comfortably. It really depends where the yardage is though. Hitting hybrids and 3-wood into par 4's all day gets old in a hurry. Extra length in par 5's that you're not reaching in 2 anyway is no problem....
  • Upvote 1

In David's bag....

Driver: Titleist 910 D-3;  9.5* Diamana Kai'li
3-Wood: Titleist 910F;  15* Diamana Kai'li
Hybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'li
Irons: Titleist 695cb 5-Pw

Wedges: Scratch 51-11 TNC grind, Vokey SM-5's;  56-14 F grind and 60-11 K grind
Putter: Scotty Cameron Kombi S
Ball: ProV1

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

^^ yeah, I guess color doesn't mean much - it's the yardage that I should have indicated, my bad.

John

Fav LT Quote ... "you can talk to a fade, but a hook won't listen"

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

[QUOTE][/QUOTE][quote name="inthehole" url="/t/62203/at-what-hcp-did-you-make-the-jump-from-the-white-to-the-blue-tees#post_769248"]^^ yeah, I guess color doesn't mean much - it's the yardage that I should have indicated, my bad. [/quote] What are the whites you're playing now? What are the blues? How far do you carry your 5 iron?

In David's bag....

Driver: Titleist 910 D-3;  9.5* Diamana Kai'li
3-Wood: Titleist 910F;  15* Diamana Kai'li
Hybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'li
Irons: Titleist 695cb 5-Pw

Wedges: Scratch 51-11 TNC grind, Vokey SM-5's;  56-14 F grind and 60-11 K grind
Putter: Scotty Cameron Kombi S
Ball: ProV1

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I started playing in my mid 20s and the guys that got me started were 0-3 handicaps so they put me on the back from day one.  I never had any issues keeping pace with them and would just pick up to speed up play if needed.  I think it helped me get better faster and really helped me develop a good chipping and short game.  Distance has never really been an issue I'm not the longest but, hit it far enough to play the longest courses.

Driver: Titleist 915 D3
3 wood: 15 Callaway X Hot pro
Hybrids:  18 Callaway X Hot Pro
Irons: 4-GW Callaway Apex
project x 6.0
Wedges: 54 , 58 Callaway
Putter: 2 ball
Ball: Callaway Chrome

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Originally Posted by David in FL

What are the whites you're playing now? What are the blues? How far do you carry your 5 iron?

To clarify, I'm definitely not looking to back up to the blues - I only carry my 5 iron about 160-165 (drive 235-240).      My course plays abou 6200 from the whites ( http://www.glenbrookgolfclub.com/scorecard.htm ).

Was just curious when/how the better players decided it was time to move back... if it was primarily due to length or lower hcp

John

Fav LT Quote ... "you can talk to a fade, but a hook won't listen"

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Total yardage is part of the equation. And, do white tee boxes "hurt" on some holes.

Despite my HDCP, there's one course I play where I prefer the blues over the whites. The course has a couple of 110-yd. par 3s with shots over water from elevated tees. I would prefer to be about 30 yds. back so I can hit a full 8i rather than feathering a PW over the water.

On three long Par 4s, the blue tees are 15 feet above the whites, and you can see the fairway rather than hitting a blind shot. Also, my drives roll a lot, so I can get more distance coming downhill from the blues than the lower whites.

Blues are 400 yds. longer, but I shoot the same score gross from either - and the blue gives me a lower HDCP differential.

Note: Some courses put a recommended HDCP range for each set of tees on their scorecards.

Focus, connect and follow through!

  • Completed KBS Education Seminar (online, 2015)
  • GolfWorks Clubmaking AcademyFitting, Assembly & Repair School (2012)

Driver:  :touredge: EXS 10.5°, weights neutral   ||  FWs:  :callaway: Rogue 4W + 7W
Hybrid:  :callaway: Big Bertha OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  :callaway: Mavrik MAX 5i-PW
Wedges:  :callaway: MD3: 48°, 54°... MD4: 58° ||  Putter:image.png.b6c3447dddf0df25e482bf21abf775ae.pngInertial NM SL-583F, 34"  
Ball:  image.png.f0ca9194546a61407ba38502672e5ecf.png QStar Tour - Divide  ||  Bag: :sunmountain: Three 5 stand bag

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Originally Posted by inthehole

Quote:

Originally Posted by David in FL

What are the whites you're playing now? What are the blues? How far do you carry your 5 iron?

To clarify, I'm definitely not looking to back up to the blues - I only carry my 5 iron about 160-165 (drive 235-240).      My course plays abou 6200 from the whites ( http://www.glenbrookgolfclub.com/scorecard.htm ).

Was just curious when/how the better players decided it was time to move back... if it was primarily due to length or lower hcp

It's a combination of yardage and difficulty and how they stack up to your game.  I don't think that there is any set formula.  The only real mistake is to make the choice with your ego instead of your brain.

Rick

"He who has the fastest cart will never have a bad lie."

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Originally Posted by David in FL

Color means nothing..... What's the yardage?

I played a course last week where the whites were 6500 with a lot of elevation. Probably played close to 6700. I also regularly play courses where the blue tees are in the 6300 yd range.

If you're hitting driver 235 you'll likely be able to play at 6300-6400 pretty comfortably. It really depends where the yardage is though. Hitting hybrids and 3-wood into par 4's all day gets old in a hurry. Extra length in par 5's that you're not reaching in 2 anyway is no problem....

This.

I too hit it about 230-240 off the tee. Not long. I found that I like a course that plays in the 6300-6600y range. Any longer than that & I'm not even seeing my short irons.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


I am 58 years old, and right now, I am hitting it as long as I ever have. I know that is due to equipment and the ball, and I also know that it won't last forever. I currently play from the Blues(6700). When I start hitting hybrids on a lot of the par 4's, I will move up to the whites. I think distance will be more of a factor than handicap.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


Originally Posted by Fourputt

I don't feel that it has anything to do with handicap.  It's about length.  I've always played from the middle tees,  or one back of middle, on just about every course I've played.  My length has suited me to 6000-6500 yards most of my life (depending on elevation - most of my golf has been in Colorado, so I lean toward the 6500 end of the range).

I agree that it's about length. My comfortable range is at 6800 yards for a par 72. I have a chance at the par 5s with a great drive (at least 2 of the 4) and can hit irons into every par 4 with a decent drive. I average just over 260 and hit my 5 iron 187. I have a friend that hits it 235 and his fit is 6400 yards.

I moved to the blue tees once I started playing to a single cap and could hit it 250. The key was the distance.

Cobra LTDx 10.5* | Big Tour 15.5*| Rad Tour 18.5*  | Titleist U500 4-23* | T100 5-P | Vokey SM7 50/8* F, 54/10* S, SM8 58/10* S | Scotty Cameron Squareback No. 1 | Vice Pro Plus  

Link to comment
Share on other sites


I didn't look at moving from the White to the Blues based on handicap... I simply made the move based on how far I was hitting my clubs.

For instance, once I started to consistently hit my drive 200+yds off the tee and felt I could start hitting greens from 150 o 175yds out - or at least make clean contact with the ball and have the ball go in the general vicinity of the green... From the fairway or rough... Then I felt it was time to play a little longer set of tee's.

This is when I started to move back from the forward tee's...

Distance in golf is:

Quality of strike (force applied onto the golf ball)

Speed of strike (swing speed)

As you become a more proficient ball striker... And the course becomes shorter and shorter... Then move back to a longer tee box.

.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Nothing to add other than like other's I make the choice based on length and I move around accordingly. It's a moving target. We have courses here that are just 6400 yds from the back and others that are a monstrous 7600+ yds from the back. Though at a few of the longer courses you need permission from the head pro to play championship tees. I stood on the box of a 696 yd par 5 just to see what the view was, crazy long. There are 3 sets of men's tees there and more than a 100 yd difference on some holes from the tips to the most forward men's tee.

Dave :-)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Moderator

Agree with all the distance assessment.  I hit my driver about 220 - 230 and my 5 iron 165-170.  I could play the blues on some short courses, but prefer the whites.  I played Saturday with someone my age (50s) that was playing the blues and should have been playing the whites.  He really struggled and had much longer approach shots.On a 400 yard par 4, I will still be hitting a 5 or 4 iron into the green with an average drive.  My favorite local course plays 6100 from the whites.

Scott

Titleist, Edel, Scotty Cameron Putter, Snell - AimPoint - Evolvr - MirrorVision

My Swing Thread

boogielicious - Adjective describing the perfect surf wave

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Note: This thread is 4229 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.

The popup will be closed in 10 seconds...