2019 Presidents Cup

[DeadMan]

What a fun night. I think I would have actually preferred the internationals to win. I care a lot more about the Ryder Cup, and I think the US losing might be better for the Ryder Cup. I think @iacas said this at one point, but the US always winning at the President's Cup probably makes the Ryder Cup defeats less bitter. 

All that said, it was a fantastic President's Cup. Way over performed my expectations. The course was great. Watching these guys have to control their spin to get it close to the hole was awesome. You saw some guys try to run it up and others fly it there with spin. Those bunkers, too. Only downside is that nobody putted it into a bunker this week. Damn.

[Herkimer]

Yes, this was a fun night.  I'm still on Cloud 9 due to our win.  I think this exciting PC can only help the RC, due to how close it was, and due to Tiger's participation.  

[70sSanO]

I must admit I really liked the way the International team was put together and how they approached the course.  It is easy to root for them, but not at Tiger’s expense.

in some ways I actually like watching Tiger 2.0 a little more than Tiger 1.0.  You expected the old Tiger to dominate, To see what Tiger does to these young guns at his age, after all his physical issues, is just unbelievable.

John 

[Herkimer]

Tiger's comeback nerve damage and not being able to walk is kind of a miracle.  His surgeon deserves all credit.  I wish I had that surgeon's name.

Is there any reason why the International teams would be less of a threat than the European teams?

Good to see that Ernie is very gracious in defeat.  

At the team press conference, Tiger said (with a smile), "Ancer wanted me and he got me."  

[70sSanO]

The Europeans are probably more seasoned and better.  They do have 6 of them in the top 15.  There’s no one comparable to McIltoy or Rahm on the Internationals.

But based on how their rookies played they have potential to improve.  I can see an influx of excellent Asian players down the road that might turn the tide.

John

[jmanbooyaa]

This year’s President Cup did exactly what it needed to. It made you care and showed a competitive International team. Hopefully with their youth they can be competitive for years to come. Els had them believe they could win, Tiger showed us how to win. 

[Vinsk]

It was certainly just as exciting to watch as the RC for me. Great event. Now, OT but irks the hell out of me, let’s do away with the ‘arguably GOAT’ phrase. It’s printed and said by way too many people. Some players have been able to cross the nostalgic barrier and realize the truth and/or interpret the stats correctly but come on. The only thing arguable is whether Jack is the second best. Tiger: GOAT, undisputed.

[Herkimer]

6 hours ago, 70sSanO said:

The Europeans are probably more seasoned and better.  They do have 6 of them in the top 15.  There’s no one comparable to McIltoy or Rahm on the Internationals.

But based on how their rookies played they have potential to improve.  I can see an influx of excellent Asian players down the road that might turn the tide.

John

I'm sure you're right.  After all,  Asian women golfers have no real competition from neither American nor European women golfers.  I don't see any reason why International male golfers won't be eventually be on a par with the Americans.  

[Herkimer]

5 minutes ago, Vinsk said:

It was certainly just as exciting to watch as the RC for me. Great event. Now, OT but irks the hell out of me, let’s do away with the ‘arguably GOAT’ phrase. It’s printed and said by way too many people. Some players have been able to cross the nostalgic barrier and realize the truth and/or interpret the stats correctly but come on. The only thing arguable is whether Jack is the second best. Tiger: GOAT, undisputed.

The only issue for many people is the 15 vs. 18.  Then again, Jack wasn't out of commission the way that Tiger was for a number of years.  

[iacas]

2 minutes ago, Herkimer said:

The only issue for many people is the 15 vs. 18.  Then again, Jack wasn't out of commission the way that Tiger was for a number of years.  

Whole other topic for that guys.

[jmanbooyaa]

Going down the stretch, last 2 matches were ties. Was anyone else thinking that the JT Rickie tie after up 5 with 8 to play could have cost us the Cup? Or very least end in a tie. 
 

Tiger had a lot of positives to say about the course and kind of alluded to that a course can be challenging without making it so long. 

[Herkimer]

2 minutes ago, jmanbooyaa said:

Going down the stretch, last 2 matches were ties. Was anyone else thinking that the JT Rickie tie after up 5 with 8 to play could have cost us the Cup? Or very least end in a tie. 
 

Yes, definitely.  It was very exciting, but we lost a lot of leads.  Nevertheless, I am very happy today with our comeback win.  Tony's comeback had me gleaming.  He should be winning many tournaments, including majors.  

[Papa Steve 55]

Did anybody catch El's interview after the match? He seemed to want the PGA out of the international team selection process all together, though he never quite said those words. Sounded like he was not happy with all the players that were auto selections. I may not have got it right, he was talking in circles and i only had a 1/2 a cup of coffee.

[iacas]

I didn’t get that. And it’s PGA Tour.

[David in FL]

A win is a win.  

 Like the NFL, there aren’t any style points.  Thankfully.

[Herkimer]

10 minutes ago, Papa Steve 55 said:

Did anybody catch El's interview after the match? He seemed to want the PGA out of the international team selection process all together, though he never quite said those words. Sounded like he was not happy with all the players that were auto selections. I may not have got it right, he was talking in circles and i only had a 1/2 a cup of coffee.

I must have been watching a different interview because I saw none of this.  Maybe it went over my head, I don't know.  It would be helpful if you could be more specific.

2 minutes ago, David in FL said:

A win is a win.  

 Like the NFL, there aren’t any style points.  Thankfully.

So true.  Also, a squeaker like this is better for the sport. 

[70sSanO]

This s has nothing to do with Els’ interview, (I didn’t watch it), but I am not a fan of automatic qualification based on world rankings.

The captains knows them and they will most likely follow suit to some degree, but there should be more leeway to assemble the best team.  Having just 4 Captains picks doesn’t allow for enough.

Reversing that would at least be an improvement... 4 automatic, 8 “captain’s” picks.  If your captain can’t figure it out, you have the wrong captain.

John

[Herkimer]

I'll bet that if our captain had 12 picks that you could almost be sure that at least eight of those picks would be the top 8 in world rankings who are on our side.  In other words, you're basically get the same result.  Of course personalities have to be considered.  For example, I would pass over somebody who was very disruptive.