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i need some tips guys. have tried to implement the S&T for the last month, and my iron play is great and very consistent. Here comes the problem. I can't hit a driver/wood/hybrid to save my life. Last Saturday i resorted to playing 4i of the tee on the back 9. shot better than the front. I don't really want this to get into a conversation that "you can't hit woods with the s&t;" but can anyone give me a few tips to maybe make this a little easier.

everything is either slicing or pushing hard right. HELP PLEASE!

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Good to know because now you'll be able to get some tips that are relevant to your swing . From a theoretical stand point though, the three main reasons someone experiences lower back pain a

newtogolf
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I think it's like any swing method / pattern that promises all golfers instant and great results.  Andy and Mike generated a lot of hype based on some questionable "science" that made them and some th

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It's not a common miss at all. Quite the opposite, if that's possible. Your weight may not be moving forward enough... though without seeing a swing, who knows... If your left shoulder is ahead of the

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i need some tips guys. have tried to implement the S&T; for the last month, and my iron play is great and very consistent. Here comes the problem. I can't hit a driver/wood/hybrid to save my life. Last Saturday i resorted to playing 4i of the tee on the back 9. shot better than the front. I don't really want this to get into a conversation that "you can't hit woods with the s&t;" but can anyone give me a few tips to maybe make this a little easier.

I was having the same problem, the things that helped me were putting more weight on my left at address (for me it was like 75/25) and David's comments from his blog:

http://thesandtrap.com/forum/entries...and-the-driver Be sure in side tilting, standing up, and turning during the backswing that the arms are attached to your torso and not lifting above your shoulder plane. Again...this is a steepening move and would be a bigger NO NO with the driver....think steep shoulders, shallow arms.

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i need some tips guys. have tried to implement the S&T for the last month, and my iron play is great and very consistent. Here comes the problem. I can't hit a driver/wood/hybrid to save my life. Last Saturday i resorted to playing 4i of the tee on the back 9. shot better than the front. I don't really want this to get into a conversation that "you can't hit woods with the s&t;" but can anyone give me a few tips to maybe make this a little easier.

I was having the same problem, the things that helped me were putting more weight on my left at address (for me it was like 75/25) and David's comments from his blog:

+1 for the "arms attached to torso" tip. This helped me alot with the driver. I am trying to feel like my chest is hitting the ball.

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Is this a pretty textbook S&T; swing? Love his downswing acceleration.

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I just ordered the videos last night but would like a few key things I can start to practice until they come. Any tips would be much appreciated

My only problem with golf is that I am usually standing too close to the ball............ after I hit it.
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I just ordered the videos last night but would like a few key things I can start to practice until they come. Any tips would be much appreciated

Best "short course" is probably still:

http://www.golfdigest.com/golf-instr...2/stackandtilt .

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I can't remember for sure, but I thought Erik posted the video about the head-against-the-pole-drill on this thread. But now I can't find it. Sorry to be a pain, but can someone clue me in as to where I can find that video, or maybe re-post it? Thanks very much.

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I can't remember for sure, but I thought Erik posted the video about the head-against-the-pole-drill on this thread. But now I can't find it. Sorry to be a pain, but can someone clue me in as to where I can find that video, or maybe re-post it? Thanks very much.

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That's the one! Thanks a lot, RIduffer.

The stuff in my bag (i.e. The clubs that I haven't tossed in the pond. Yet.):

Driver: G15
Fariway Woods: Fybrid 5
Irons: Big Bertha Fusion 3-PWWedges: Tom Watson 56 and 60Putter: IN Wack-e


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I just bought the kindle version of the stack and tilt book, read it quickly and put the 30 minute S&T practice section that is prescribed to work. I wanted to encourage those either teaching or adhering to stack and tilt, as i went from hitting fat/thin to powerful, piercing draws within the first 10 balls I hit. I had never hit a push draw before, and it was amazing as I effortlessly ripped off powerful push draw after push draw. Another great thing I noticed is that misses are incredibly easy to diagnose and fix. If I hook the ball, just open the clubface to get back to drawing. If I mis-hit, I just need to focus on keeping my weight left and standing up through the finish. If any of you are still wondering about stack and tilt, and have problems hitting a consistent, powerful, controllable shot, just give S&T a try! Thanks again to all those on this forum who rave about it... you have helped me quickly elevate my game! (end S&T commercial)

(Sorry I forgot to post this in the right thread... thanks to whomever moved it.)

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I picked up the book and the dvd's about a week ago (70 Bucks). Halfway through the book, but I feel I learn better visually so I've focused more on disc#1 of the dvd's. After watching disc 1, the team went over something that I read in "Golf My Way" by Jack Nicklaus. The shoulder going down rather than around in the backswing. It really works for me. In the past I was doing it, but I don't believe I was getting my weight forward fast enough and therefore not reaping the benefit of what Jack was saying. But with the S&T, they provided great explanation and now my weight is already forward so it eliminates alot of my mis-hits. The one thing that I'm having a problem with is the straightening of the back leg in the backswing. It's not happening. If anyone has any tips, I'd greatly appreciate them. But so far, I'm way ahead of last years progress.

The S&T formula is great. And to those not willing to give it a try, you're doing yourself a great disservice.
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There are some drills in the back of the book that help with the back leg straightening. Try a few shots with the back leg straight from the start of the takeaway to get the feeling down.

Best of luck.

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LeftyTrevor Well Established Member

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I have looked all over the web and ( unless I am doing a bad job of it ) I can not find any info on SAT instructors in the So Cal area. While I'm sure the videos and book will help me I tend to do better with a bit of feedback from someone watching me who may see what I'm missing. Does anybody have any info on a school or individual who teaches the method out here.

My only problem with golf is that I am usually standing too close to the ball............ after I hit it.
In my bag

Ping G30 Driver

Ping G25 3 wood

Titleist AP2 3-PW

Edel wedges

Edel putter


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I have looked all over the web and ( unless I am doing a bad job of it ) I can not find any info on SAT instructors in the So Cal area. While I'm sure the videos and book will help me I tend to do better with a bit of feedback from someone watching me who may see what I'm missing. Does anybody have any info on a school or individual who teaches the method out here.

Dana Dahlquist is in Long Beach - dahlquistgolf dot net - and Dan Carraher is in San Diego at the San Diego Golf Institute - they are both very good - if you contact either of them please mention that Dave Wedzik let you know about them through The Sand Trap.

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Hi there,
Anyone know of any SAT instuctors in NYC or it's surrounding counties(Westchester, Rockland, LI, etc)?

parplease Established Member

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There are some drills in the back of the book that help with the back leg straightening. Try a few shots with the back leg straight from the start of the takeaway to get the feeling down.

Thanks. Guess I have to go back to the book!

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Driver - Nike SQ Dymo 2 HL w/Cleveland Headcover
Fairway Wood - Hibore XLS 5 WoodHybrids - Hibore 3,4,5Irons - CG Gold 6-PWWedges - CG14 52 & 60 CG15 - 56 Degree Custom Squareback 1

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Hi there,

Very knowledgeable instructor at Chelsea Piers in NYC named John Hobbins. I know he has worked with Mike and Andy and also Jim Hardy.


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