Video Analysis has changed my game forever

[RubxQub]

Don't get me wrong - I love my iPhone - but for golf swing analysis it's garbage.

I know I know... I'm holding until XMas to get a proper camera for the job...and that EX-FS10 for 90 bucks on Amazon is a great wishlist item.

I'll have some good stuff to upload then...but no sooner :(

[k14]

Yeah I bought a JVC GC-FM1 about 2 months ago and it is great. However I am already wanting for more than 60fps. It is usable at the moment cause I am an 18 hdcp with some pretty obvious faults. However I think I will have to pull the trigger on the Casio with 200fps shortly. The biggest problem is that with my swing speed on my downswing I only get one frame when the club is parallel to ground and another around when I hit the ball. So I completly miss my wrists de hinging etc. The other thing is that there is no way to review the swing on the range other than in full speed.

Are you able to go frame by frame on the casio when reviewing the footage? The JVC just has play and stop.

[iacas]

Are you able to go frame by frame on the casio when reviewing the footage? The JVC just has play and stop.

Yeah, you can.

[Zeph]

Yeah, you can.

Is that not just depending on which video player you are using? Perhaps video format too.

[iacas]

Is that not just depending on which video player you are using? Perhaps video format too.

I've not yet seen a Casio that can't do frame by frame on video it records. Not sure what you're talking about Zeph...???

[k14]

Is that not just depending on which video player you are using? Perhaps video format too.

I am talking about on the camera itself. When I am on the range I need to get instant feedback or else I will forgot what I am trying to do next time I go to range (I guess I could be a real nerd and take my laptop!).

That is what I am currently using my iphone for. Seeing as I am trying to rectify some pretty basic and obvious errors the 30fps of the iphone is sufficient. So far the best I have found for that is SP Free. It only lets you have 2 videos in the free version but as far as frame by frame controls goes it is pretty easy to use and instant feedback which is what I like.

[Neco]

Which slow motion Casio models are you looking at for around $100.00. All I see on the Casio site are around $300.

[Stretch]

^^^^^^^^^

The EX-FS10 is under $100. Next (and worthwhile, in my opinion) step up is the EX-FC100 at $175 or so.

[Deryck Griffith]

Anyways, I have been working with my golf pro who we sponsor and he keeps telling me what was wrong with my swing. We finally filmed it and watched it and saw what needed to change. I always knew what he was trying to explain to me, but watching it was the icing on the cake. My average drive before was around 240 with a bad fade (almost slice) and now hitting 290-310 with a controlled fade.

Feel isn't real and video is an extremely humbling experience. Kudos to you for looking at your swing in a positive light and making the required adjustments.

[srjorion]

One thing I quickly learned after seeing my swing and all of the changes I needed to make was that I couldn't fix it all at once. At first I would work on two or three things each range session, but my progress was very slow. I have since then gone to working on one thing over a few range sessions and will then hit the video to see if I'm making progress. I have broken out the camera on some of the drills to see if I'm accomplishing what I am aiming for. While you can quickly identify flaws with video, I'm learning that doesn't mean you will fix them faster. You still need to take time to make the change stick before moving on to something else.

[Chas]

All very well BUT, how do you guys deal with the psychological trauma of seeing yourself for the first time as other golfers see you. Ouch. Reminds me of hearing myself play a musical instrument for the first time. A bit sickening.

I recently bought a cool videocam, HD c hard drive storage and golf-specific function (takes a series of high-speed photos, supposedly better than just the HD video). Haven't used it yet tho'.

[MacBooky]

All very well BUT, how do you guys deal with the psychological trauma of seeing yourself for the first time as other golfers see you. Ouch. Reminds me of hearing myself play a musical instrument for the first time. A bit sickening.

Well, let's be real .... you're probably the only one that doesn't know his swing is ugly yet .... you've already shared it with the rest of the world at numerous occasions

And remember, you shouldn't be using video to rate yourself, you have a scorecard for that. Use video for analysis of issues and feedback during practice.

[srjorion]

All very well BUT, how do you guys deal with the psychological trauma of seeing yourself for the first time as other golfers see you.

I was excited. I saw so many areas where I could improve that I actually looked forward to making the changes knowing if I did I would shave at least a few strokes off my game.

SRJ

[colin007]

I know a couple of players who avoid it because they're afraid of what they'll see. I have recordings of their swings which show an obvious flip, but they're in total denial.

whats a "flip"? lol...

[TourSpoon]

All very well BUT, how do you guys deal with the psychological trauma of seeing yourself for the first time as other golfers see you. Ouch.

I just say no to video...total feel player. The exposure to such images may put me back in the looney bin.

[sean_miller]

Well, let's be real .... you're probably the only one that doesn't know his swing is ugly yet .... you've already shared it with the rest of the world at numerous occasions

I use video (extremely rarely) to confirm what I see in the mirror. Plus, if relying on a mirror (or sillouhette/shadow) it's hard to hit certain positions without straining one's neck. Coincidentally, pain is one factor in how I judge my swing. Did it feel like I was generating good clubhead speed and making good contact? Did the ball go in the proper trajectory, direction, and distance? Do I feel any pain after the round or range session? If the answers two those three questions are "yes", "yes", and "no", then all is good.

[Chas]

I just say no to video...total feel player. The exposure to such images may put me back in the looney bin.

You are reinforcing the view of my sub-conscious mind. But your post wrongly implies that I have left said receptacle ....

[Chas]

I was excited. I saw so many areas where I could improve that I actually looked forward to making the changes knowing if I did I would shave at least a few strokes off my game.

The voice of the Good Angel ...... maybe.