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Elbow Position and Its Effects on the Downswing

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I think you mean throwing up.

Only after 9 shots of Jim Beam freshman year of college.

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Take a look at these P5 (left arm horizontal, downswing) positions. The left is bad, the right is good. I've subtly marked this with RED for bad and GREEN for good. Yeah, I'm feeling a bit sarcastic t

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I've been working on this for a long time. The feeling that has worked best for me: For a righty, feel that the right forearm is vertical at P4 (top of the back swing). When I'm working on this at

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I'm uploading the video now. :) Edit: here you go. When Dave edits it, he'll change it from Private to Listed.

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Nice overhead view of some greats in this great video.

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Cool post Stretch.

Arnie starts a bit under plane then comes over plane on the downswing.  Is he a bit out to in on impact or was it the camera angle.

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Cool post Stretch. Arnie starts a bit under plane then comes over plane on the downswing.  Is he a bit out to in on impact or was it the camera angle.

Wasn't Arnie a big proponent of LPG and the P57 methodology? ;-)

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A quick preview of the video:

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A quick preview of the video:

Hey look, it's me!

Needs bigger hat and more palmar flexion though, if you wanna really nail it.

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A quick preview of the video:

Can't wait for the video!  That's a heck of a shoulder turn in the first sequence ... can you even see the ball at all at that point?

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A quick preview of the video:

At first glance I thought the image on the right was still DTL, total mindf*#k LOL.

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Can't wait for the video!  That's a heck of a shoulder turn in the first sequence ... can you even see the ball at all at that point?

Thing is, that's almost the same exact amount of torso rotation as the better shots. The shoulder retracting is an optical illusion of sorts.

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Thing is, that's almost the same exact amount of torso rotation as the better shots. The shoulder retracting is an optical illusion of sorts.

Hey, you're right.  From the midsection down, the two swings looks pretty similar, but you can tell from that green line on your shirt that those shoulders really kept going.

P.S., I know they're stills from a video, but they look almost posed ... Dave in the first picture looks like he's calmly breaking it to you ... "I don't want to alarm you, but you have a bit of a problem with your right elbow here."

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Reminds me of the way Dave would make James hold his A4 position at the clinic in Boston while calmly talking to us.  Eventually, Dave would realize that James was getting pretty uncomfortable in that pose.  Then he would keep talking leaving James to hang there.

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Ok... That elbow position in the first two stills (Wrong) makes me feel a little better about my swing.  Thanks for the vote of confidence.

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*Bump* anxiously awaiting this video....

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I'm uploading the video now. :)

Edit: here you go. When Dave edits it, he'll change it from Private to Listed.

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Originally Posted by iacas

I'm uploading the video now. :)

Edit: here you go. When Dave edits it, he'll change it from Private to Listed.

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I'm uploading the video now. :)

Edit: here you go. When Dave edits it, he'll change it from Private to Listed.

Dave's editing... Is he trying to put hair on his head?

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Thanks, Erik and Dave! But it's still private...

Preemptive thumbs up though in anticipation of a good video

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