Jump to content
IGNORED

My Swing (Beachcomber)

Beachcomber

By Beachcomber,
in Member Swings

 Share

Recommended Posts

cipher Super Member

cipher

Originally Posted by Beachcomber

It's bowed a hair, and the face is closed.

Now the most analyzed left wrist in the history of the Sand Trap! I think we all can agree it is closer to flat than it is to DJ level "bowednessing".

Nate

:tmade:(10.5) :pxg:(7W) MIURA(3-PW) :mizuno:(50/54/60) :scotty_cameron:

 

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1
1
1
1
1
1

  • Replies 571
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Popular Posts

iacas
iacas

Shawn, I'll say this slowly so that you can understand: Your slow turning rates are leading to your elbow getting too

iacas
iacas

Set up with your hips a bit more where the white line is. You're a little back in your heels, so you re-balance toward the balls/toes of your feet a bit.

Beachcomber
Beachcomber

Cheers to you as well! But, I can't claim it.  I actually picked it up watching one of Ben's swing videos. http://thesandtrap.com/u/16/Ben I thought it was a great way to add some visu

Posted Images

  • Moderator
mvmac Incredible Member

mvmac

  • Moderator

Something like this might be good to look into to.  Impact Ball, Pipoe, nerf ball or a small soccer ball.  Think it would help all the stuff you mentioned in your post.

Mike McLoughlin

Check out my friends on Evolvr!
Follow The Sand Trap on Twitter!  and on Facebook! 
Golf Terminology -  Analyzr  -  My Facebook, Twitter and Instagram 

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1
1
1
1
1
1

Beachcomber Super Member

Beachcomber

  • Author

The impact ball/pipoe - it helps with spacing between the elbows.  How will that help reduce the early extension?  Does it simply ensure that my right elbow doesn't get stuck on the side of my hip at A5++?  Ensures it gets into my belly - and gives the hands a clear path into impact?

I've tried Drew's pipoe at the range, and it was definitely a very foreign feel.  Something that I know is missing in my right arm...

EDIT: I just went and bought a Pipoe online Mike. Just another thing to add to my collection of gadgets!

Originally Posted by mvmac

Something like this might be good to look into to.  Impact Ball, Pipoe, nerf ball or a small soccer ball.  Think it would help all the stuff you mentioned in your post.

.

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1

  • Moderator
mvmac Incredible Member

mvmac

  • Moderator
Originally Posted by Beachcomber

The impact ball/pipoe - it helps with spacing between the elbows.  How will that help reduce the early extension?  Does it simply ensure that my right elbow doesn't get stuck on the side of my hip at A5++?  Ensures it gets into my belly - and gives the hands a clear path into impact?

Because it's pretty tough to early extend if the elbows don't spread apart, allows you to get the handle lower.  Or early extend to the point where it's bad.  Every great golfer has some degree of early extension.

Originally Posted by Beachcomber

EDIT: I just went and bought a Pipoe online Mike. Just another thing to add to my collection of gadgets!

You'll like it.  Just do slow swings with it at first.  I might film a few of myself today.

Mike McLoughlin

Check out my friends on Evolvr!
Follow The Sand Trap on Twitter!  and on Facebook! 
Golf Terminology -  Analyzr  -  My Facebook, Twitter and Instagram 

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1
1
1
1
1
1

theworldengine Well Established Member

theworldengine

Originally Posted by Beachcomber

The idea? It's just an anatomical anomaly found in my swing?  I don't consciously do it... It just happens.

I've tried to actively cup my wrist at address (middle image), and maintain that cup throughout the swing. But have found during the loading of the shaft - into the transition from A4 to A4++++ it just happens to palmar flex or bowe (right image).  For the most part I can get away with it, but when my tempo gets too quick, my longer irons and fairways tend to come off at a lower trajectory than I'd like to see.

Working with the 5SK/Evolvr guys, the swing pattern that they have me working on is ideal to hit a push draw.  But to be honest, my ball flight tends to be pretty straight to a slightly straight pull.  Some of that I believe is the result of my wrist conditions (bowed) which leads to a slightly closed clubface at impact.

Ultimately, I'd like to hit high push draws - or even high pull cuts.... My dynamic loft needs to improve...  And that can only happen if I can bring my angle of attack - and approach on the positive side.

The big issue I have is with Key #1 at A7:

one thing I don't understand is that if you move your weight to the left side and cause your spine to tilt to your right side as a result, that should result in the new head position right?  how do you slide your weight to the left without a lowering and rightward movement of the head.  afaik all the guys that slide their weight over get the dropping head.


bplewis24 Super Member

bplewis24

Originally Posted by theworldengine

one thing I don't understand is that if you move your weight to the left side and cause your spine to tilt to your right side as a result, that should result in the new head position right?  how do you slide your weight to the left without a lowering and rightward movement of the head.  afaik all the guys that slide their weight over get the dropping head.

Is dropping the head really all that bad?

Brandon a.k.a. Tony Stark

-------------------------

The Fastest Flip in the West


  • Moderator
mvmac Incredible Member

mvmac

  • Moderator
Originally Posted by bplewis24

Is dropping the head really all that bad?

Nope

Originally Posted by theworldengine

one thing I don't understand is that if you move your weight to the left side and cause your spine to tilt to your right side as a result, that should result in the new head position right?  how do you slide your weight to the left without a lowering and rightward movement of the head.  afaik all the guys that slide their weight over get the dropping head.

As stated above, a little downward movement and even some rightward movement is fine.

Might be a good thread for you to check out

http://thesandtrap.com/t/54115/weight-forward-and-secondary-axis-tilt

Mike McLoughlin

Check out my friends on Evolvr!
Follow The Sand Trap on Twitter!  and on Facebook! 
Golf Terminology -  Analyzr  -  My Facebook, Twitter and Instagram 

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1
1
1
1
1
1

Beachcomber Super Member

Beachcomber

  • Author

I just had an interesting range session... Tried to really get my elbows close at address, and maintain that.  I wanted to feel like this coming into the ball...  With that clubhead lagging behind the ball...

And tried to cut my finish like this....

That was fun... I hit some trajectories that were piercing.  Gonna roll with these feels for awhile and keep practicing it until the Pipoe gets here...

.

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1

cipher Super Member

cipher

That is the exact feel that got me into an improved A4 position that I was aiming for.  I tuck the right elbow into the stomach at address and then feel like it stays there.  I really like the trajectory you get with it as well.

Nate

:tmade:(10.5) :pxg:(7W) MIURA(3-PW) :mizuno:(50/54/60) :scotty_cameron:

 

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1
1
1
1
1
1

jefkve Dedicated Member

jefkve

Originally Posted by Beachcomber

I just had an interesting range session...

Did you almost die from the heat too??? 100 degrees and HUMID in Lake Forest when I hit balls at lunch...

"If you watch a game, it's fun. If you play it, it's recreation. If you work at it, it's golf."

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1
1

Beachcomber Super Member

Beachcomber

  • Author
Originally Posted by cipher

That is the exact feel that got me into an improved A4 position that I was aiming for.  I tuck the right elbow into the stomach at address and then feel like it stays there.  I really like the trajectory you get with it as well.

Yeah, I try not to get too fixated on it in the backswing... More of a firm placement at address - ensure it's tight.  Then let it go...

I found if I try and maintain that firm - or really close feel throughout, I tend to simply hit pushes out to the right.  Nice and high... But pushed too far off my target (20yds).   But if I get that firm feeling at address, then just focus on a nice smooth one piece takeaway, with the arms/shoulders/hips in sequence... I can hit some nice push draws.  Especially with the finish to A9 like DD.

.

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1

  • Administrator
iacas Hall of Fame Member

iacas

  • Administrator

Interesting thread title. Hmm.

Erik J. Barzeski — ⛳ I knock a ball. It goes in a gopher hole. 🏌🏼‍♂️
Director of Instruction Golf Evolution • Owner, The Sand Trap .com • Author, Lowest Score Wins
Golf Digest "Best Young Teachers in America" 2016-17 & "Best in State" 2017-20 • WNY Section PGA Teacher of the Year 2019 :edel: :true_linkswear:

Check Out: New Topics | TST Blog | Golf Terms | Instructional Content | Analyzr | LSW | Instructional Droplets

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1

Golfingdad Incredible Member

Golfingdad

Originally Posted by iacas

Interesting thread title. Hmm.

LOL!  I was like "Oh interesting, Beach started a thread about his specific problem right now" then was like "Wait, wtf?  How does it already have 515 posts?!?!"

I get it now. ;)

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1
1
1
1
1
1
1

mchepp Great Member

mchepp

Love the new thread title. We can probably put my swing thread in here as well.

Michael

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1
1
1

Stretch Super Member

Stretch

Epic.

Stretch.

"In the process of trial and error, our failed attempts are meant to destroy arrogance and provoke humility." -- Master Jin Kwon

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1

cipher Super Member

cipher

Is that what we are supposed to do now in this thread is post sexy pitch elbow pictures?

Edit: I also think something indecent it coming out of those shorts above.  That is disturbing...

Nate

:tmade:(10.5) :pxg:(7W) MIURA(3-PW) :mizuno:(50/54/60) :scotty_cameron:

 

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1
1
1
1
1
1

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing


  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up

  • TST Partners

    TourStriker PlaneMate
    Golfer's Journal
    ShotScope
    The Stack System
    FitForGolf
    FlightScope Mevo
    Direct: Mevo, Mevo+, and Pro Package.

    Coupon Codes (save 10-20%): "IACAS" for Mevo/Stack/FitForGolf, "IACASPLUS" for Mevo+/Pro Package, and "THESANDTRAP" for ShotScope. 15% off TourStriker (no code).

  • Posts

    • dennyjones
      The Films and Movies Thread

      By dennyjones ·

      My wife is going to drag me to see Wicked.   She is very excited to see it.   We saw the musical while in Chicago and thought it was very good.  I'm not usually a fan of musicals but I'm looking forward to seeing this.   Gladiator 2 does look good.   I'm going to go back and watch the original Gladiator before going to the theater.
    • jxdama
      I Love Charley Hull Now and Agree With Her Completely

      By jxdama ·

      MSN Glover expressed his dissatisfaction with what he termed as 'cool kid meetings' between Jordan Spieth, Patrick Cantlay, Tiger Woods and other high-profile golfers. "I think it's terrible," he stated. "And then hiding behind pace of play, I think, challenges our intelligence. They think we're stupid.     "Don't cut fields because it's a pace of play issue. Tell us to play faster, or just say you're trying to appease six guys and make them happy so they don't go somewhere else and play golf." Fitzpatrick joined the conversation on X (formerly Twitter), with the 30-year-old echoing Glover's sentiments regarding the PGA Tour changes. "He's so right," Fitzpatrick posted. "Pathetic that pace of play is spoken about every year and nothing ever gets done."     I agree. Instead of  penalizing  players for  turtle  play they appease the  slow jerks  by  cutting the  fields. They will play even slower  knowing they will NEVER be  penalized.
    • DobiWanKenobi5
      My Swing (Dobiwankenobi5)

      By DobiWanKenobi5 ·

      I've been Playing Golf for: 3 years  My current handicap index or average score is: 1.5 My typical ball flight is: neutral /slight draw The shot I hate or the "miss" I'm trying to reduce/eliminate is: hook   Looking for some advice please folks. Started golfing three years ago and got hooked. Had some early lessons and was a slicer etc.  I used to have a severe inside takeaway and through working hard to fix as ever (this game…) it’s now gone too far the other way where I take it back way outside.  i think it looks really bad and have gotten a lesson last year where we tried to competely reset the swing and it ruined things for months as I couldn’t get it to stick (my fault).    anyway do I need to fix this? I hit it reasonably solid but don’t know what else I’m looking at or need to clean up. All opinions welcomed!  Videos:   
    • bkuehn1952
      The Films and Movies Thread

      By bkuehn1952 ·

      A local film critic gave the movie “Wicked” a great review. I saw the stage musical several years ago (pre-COVID) and enjoyed it. Likely won’t see the cinematic version but one never knows. I probably will go to “Gladiator 2” at some point unless the reviews are terrible.
    • bkuehn1952
      Wordle Daily Puzzle

      By bkuehn1952 ·

      Wordle 1,251 3/6 ⬜⬜⬜🟨⬜ 🟩⬜🟩🟩🟩 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩   Had two choices and picked the right one.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.

  I accept
The popup will be closed in 10 seconds...