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This is a pretty awesome! I'm in! Can I have a sash and a merit badge for my keys?

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With the flat left wrist that only relates to impact correct?  Or throughout the swing i.e. top of backswing.


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Congratulations Dave, Erik and Mike! You're great guys with great skills and you're going to do great. Oooooffff!

As a (nominally) current student, can I ask what this means for Golf Evolution, Evolvr 1.0 and your position within the general S&T-ish; circle of information?

Stretch.

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Originally Posted by secondary

What do you anticipate the prerequisite to be for potential instructors?


TBD. Quite frankly, though, we're looking for the best instructors in their area that want to be involved.

Originally Posted by Brunogolf

With the flat left wrist that only relates to impact correct?  Or throughout the swing i.e. top of backswing.


Yes, at impact. Plenty of great golfers have cupped or bowed wrists at the top of the backswing.

Originally Posted by Stretch

As a (nominally) current student, can I ask what this means for Golf Evolution, Evolvr 1.0 and your position within the general S&T-ish; circle of information?


Golf Evolution is the name of our group of teachers or, perhaps, our "location" or building or whatever. No changes there.

Evolvr 1.0 we may evaluate. Maybe we'll keep current students on and the last one out can turn off the lights. Not sure.

Our position remains unchanged. We learned and improved what we teach based on some S&T ideas, but have continued to "evolve" in how and what we teach, and will continue to do so.

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Sounds excellent!

I knew you wouldn't be able to teach G.O.L.F. Without mentioning "plane."  :-)

Kevin


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I've been working on a few of these things so it's nice to know weight forward, a steady head, and a solid impact position are keys in the new path forward.

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Count me in for Evolvr 2.0!

Scott

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Here's a vote for a Boston based instructor. This sounds great-good luck with it!  Go Pats!!!!!!

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Looks like a winner! I was working on that steady head today!

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Posted
Wow, looks like some really awesome stuff!

In my bag:

Driver: Titleist TSi3 | 15º 3-Wood: Ping G410 | 17º 2-Hybrid: Ping G410 | 19º 3-Iron: TaylorMade GAPR Lo |4-PW Irons: Nike VR Pro Combo | 54º SW, 60º LW: Titleist Vokey SM8 | Putter: Odyssey Toulon Las Vegas H7

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Congrats, sounds like a great opportunity for you and for golfers looking to improve their game.  Best of luck.

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Nice! sounds like a great place to start. Can't wait to watch

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Sign me up. Sweet spot path is so hawt.

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Nice! I'd like to get hooked up with a 5SK instructor here in Socal. Please let me know who that will be.

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I'll echo the "this is really cool" sentiments here. When I saw the icon, I thought I had missed something important (and I'm sure I did) during my absence. I can't wait to see how this turns out.

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Quick question. Is Medicus Golf involved in 5SK?

Stretch.

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