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Originally Posted by MbolicGolf

Erik and Mike,

Dave and Chuck, you mean. :)

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I think that the work you ahve done to identify these five keys is nothign short of awesome. I have been incorporating these principles into my swing but have not found the consistency I would like yet. I also notice that these keys are upper body only. In my practice I have found that there are some postural issues I have that make a large difference in my ball striking with a small change. has any thought been given to lower body position?

They're not. Key #1 and Key #2 are very much related to the lower body.

There's obviously a lot more detail to come, but if you're looking for a LOT to do with the lower body, there simply aren't a whole lot of commonalities among the better players in the lower body. Some players have different footwork, and something like "Good Footwork" isn't really a definable, measurable, achievable key.

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For the past few months my avatar has been an image of five keys ( this one , in fact). It's been a "hint" at something with which I've been involved since midway in 2011, via Dave Wedzik and Golf E

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Of course there is, it's called the Golf Channel, Golf Digest, Golf Magazine

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This is a fantastic idea, Eric. I'm looking forward to seeing the finished product. As one of tens of thousands of left handed golfers out there, I wish you had opted to title one of your keys;  "

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Originally Posted by MbolicGolf

Erik and Mike,

I think that the work you ahve done to identify these five keys is nothign short of awesome. I have been incorporating these principles into my swing but have not found the consistency I would like yet. I also notice that these keys are upper body only. In my practice I have found that there are some postural issues I have that make a large difference in my ball striking with a small change. has any thought been given to lower body position?

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Carl

Yes as Erik said we're identifying commonalities right now.  Knowing that, on average, a tour player only moves his head 1 inch on the backswing is measurable and definable.  The HOW will be coming and have a lot of detail on lower body motion.

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in case y'all didnt know, i taught Iacas and mvmac everything they know about golf... ;)

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Originally Posted by colin007

in case y'all didnt know, i taught Iacas and mvmac everything they know about golf... ;)

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Any updates on a release date? Sorry if I missed it in the previous 5 pages of posts.

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Originally Posted by Ernest Jones

Any updates on a release date? Sorry if I missed it in the previous 5 pages of posts.

Nope. Early May is the best guess.

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Thanks, looking forward to it. Effin' snow should be gone by then too!

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I am guessing there will be a list of instructors and their locations posted somewhere when the time is right(GolfEvolution?)?


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Originally Posted by Th3R00st3r

I am guessing there will be a list of instructors and their locations posted somewhere when the time is right(GolfEvolution?)?

Yes. Our first class of hand-picked instructors is meeting at the end of April.

But the GE site won't be the place, no. Dave is just one of the two Master Key Instructors, and I'm just the Director of Instructor Accreditation. There will be a 5SK site with more information on other 5SK Accredited Instructors.

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Originally Posted by iacas

Yes. Our first class of hand-picked instructors is meeting at the end of April.

But the GE site won't be the place, no. Dave is just one of the two Master Key Instructors, and I'm just the Director of Instructor Accreditation. There will be a 5SK site with more information on other 5SK Accredited Instructors.



Awesome, thanks! Get So Cal on the list asap!


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One would hope that mvmac **might** make the grade


Maybe. We do accept bribes. :)

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Originally Posted by iacas

The five simple keys® are:

Steady Head

Weight Forward

Flat Left Wrist

Diagonal Sweetspot Path

Clubface Control

Sorry but this sounds like a fancy 21st century way to say 'Five Lessons' just a little more confusing.

Nothing really new here.


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Who said they are trying to reinvent teaching? These keys are not something I've seen a lot in teaching before. Especially the steady head and weight forward, which are the two most important components in ballstriking imo.

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Originally Posted by Zeph

Who said they are trying to reinvent teaching? These keys are not something I've seen a lot in teaching before. Especially the steady head and weight forward, which are the two most important components in ballstriking imo.



You've been reading the wrong books.

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Haven't read a whole lot of books.

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Originally Posted by Zeph

Who said they are trying to reinvent teaching? These keys are not something I've seen a lot in teaching before. Especially the steady head and weight forward, which are the two most important components in ballstriking imo.

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Originally Posted by Rebecca Wilson

Sorry but this sounds like a fancy 21st century way to say 'Five Lessons' just a little more confusing.

Nothing really new here.


What's confusing about the 5SK? Zeph got it right when he said this is "not something I've seen a lot in teaching before".

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