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Thanks for sharing this.  I appreciate it.  Yeah the "out" feeling feels really weird right now.  I was not sure if I should be feeling that, so I am glad you mentioned it.  Past A3 I think I will still fight a tendency to get too deep with the hands/club, but hopefully all this will help make it less severe.  I have noticed as well that I can go out and up but still lay the club down too flat, so I have to keep an eye on that.  I will be working on it a lot into A2 and A3 to really work in the feel for this.  Thanks!

Yea, I know that problem :whistle:

For me it was just pounding those drills till the move didn't feel HORRIBLE!!! Good Luck!!!

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Yea, I know that problem :whistle: For me it was just pounding those drills till the move didn't feel HORRIBLE!!! Good Luck!!!

Thanks, yeah I am hoping it is the last really "big" change I need to make for a while.

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About as close as I have come to an eagle on a par 4 this morning. Even a blind acorn finds a squirrel once in a while.

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About as close as I have come to an eagle on a par 4 this morning. Even a blind acorn finds a squirrel once in a while.

Stupid slow greens :whistle:

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Stupid slow greens

Yeah I totally misread that one.  I thought they were rolling at 9. :doh:

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Well @Ernest Jones I now know what push fades with the irons are like.

Awesome, eh?

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Welcome to the club? But I'm planning on leaving soon, I'm sure Ernest is too.. So, don't plan on a long stay! ;)

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Awesome, eh?

Oh yeah!  I wanted to try and exaggerate it as much as I could at first to really feel the difference.  It probably did not help that I was making the downswings with the basket there.  Now hopefully I can reign it in a bit and find the middle ground with better turning rates going back as it becomes more comfortable.

Welcome to the club? But I'm planning on leaving soon, I'm sure Ernest is too.. So, don't plan on a long stay! ;)

Yeah I don't think I have checked into "Hotel California" anyway. ;-)

P.S. Not sure what happend to my post above.  Here is the video again even though EJ quoted it.

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Well @Ernest Jones I now know what push fades with the irons are like.

Welcome to the club?

Yeah. @cipher better bring donuts to the team meetings this season.  Lotta vets on the club.

Yeah I don't think I have checked into "Hotel California" anyway.

Ha.  That's what you think.  You can check out any time you like, but you can't never leave.

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Yeah.  @cipher better bring donuts to the team meetings this season.  Lotta vets on the club.

Some rookie hazing for me then.  Just let me know, Dunkin or Krispy Kreme.

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I'd wager that you're not quite doing what @cbrian is looking for here. I did hear him say "make it goofy" so maybe he's looking for it to be overdone as a quick example, but, in the end… I don't think he wants your hands actually going "up" that way, that's "out" away from you.

More green arrow, to correct the red arrow. Not the black arrow.

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I'd wager that you're not quite doing what @cbrian is looking for here. I did hear him say "make it goofy" so maybe he's looking for it to be overdone as a quick example, but, in the end… I don't think he wants your hands actually going "up" that way, that's "out" away from you.

More green arrow, to correct the red arrow. Not the black arrow.

Ha.  Looked overdone to me too but I was assuming that he was doing it that way on purpose to make green arrow feel comfortable more quickly, cause at least it's not black arrow?

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I'd wager that you're not quite doing what @cbrian is looking for here. I did hear him say "make it goofy" so maybe he's looking for it to be overdone as a quick example, but, in the end… I don't think he wants your hands actually going "up" that way, that's "out" away from you.

More green arrow, to correct the red arrow. Not the black arrow.

Ha. Looked overdone to me too but I was assuming that he was doing it that way on purpose to make green arrow feel comfortable more quickly, cause at least it's not black arrow?

You mean red right?

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I wanted to try and exaggerate it as much as I could at first to really feel the difference.  Now hopefully I can reign it in a bit and find the middle ground with better turning rates going back as it becomes more comfortable.

However, I did think I was supposed to feel some out...I will work on just the "UP".  That makes it way easier. :-D Thanks for the visual @iacas .

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You mean red right?

Red was my approximation of what you're doing now. Too much in, not enoug

However, I did think I was supposed to feel some out...I will work on just the "UP".  That makes it way easier.   Thanks for the visual @iacas.

He might have, but you probably overdid it. Your hands shouldn't actually ever really go OUT there.

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Red was my approximation of what you're doing now. Too much in, not enoug He might have, but you probably overdid it. Your hands shouldn't actually ever really go OUT there.

Okay perfect. I might even need to feel "slight" out just to get the hands moving on the green line instead of the red. I will keep at it though and see what it feels like. My guess is it just feels back and up when I do it correctly.

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Sorry if my bringing up the out contributed to this at all.  I mentioned it just because when I started making this shift even swings where my hands were right on the green line it felt like I was doing what you were actually doing in the last video.  But then I was sucking my hands back much worse than you to start...

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Sorry if my bringing up the out contributed to this at all.  I mentioned it just because when I started making this shift even swings where my hands were right on the green line it felt like I was doing what you were actually doing in the last video.  But then I was sucking my hands back much worse than you to start...

No it is good information. Thanks for the thoughts!

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