Tobacco on the Course

[MPtheKid]

I usually have a pinch of Skoal Mint LC per 9 when I play golf. If it is really hot outside, I'll pick up some Skoal Citrus. I don't smoke, drink, or gamble; dip is my only vice. Does anybody else here dip and/or chew on the course? If so, what's your poison and how, if at all, does it affect your round? Smokers are welcome to share here too.

[LottaBalata]

I used to dip as well. . .tried like heck not to ever spit on the greens. . .stuff was ruining my stomach, had to quit.  I've actually picked up some of that mint-fake tobacco stuff, for the really hard days.

I will NOT play alongside someone who smokes.  I have asthma, and I'm out to get some FRESH air.  I won't be a jerk, but I will politely remove myself from the group.

[divot dave]

If I go out by myself, usually nothing. If I'm out with friends, a beer or two (sometimes 3). Last year, I was known to bring a cigar with me, but from what i've heard smoking can cause restriction of blood vessels (correct me if i'm wrong) and I need my blood vessels as unrestricted as possible ;)

[ridenemwild]

I also dip. My poison is Copenhagen snuff. Usually start craving a pinch around the 4th hole and my game usually picks up lol ( guess I finally relax a little and just enjoy the game). I used to drink a few beers while I played but it tended to make me dehydrate quicker so now its just water on the course and beers after the round. I also hate smoking on the course. Especially when people leave cigerette butts on the course. Its probly my biggest pet peeve.

[Johnny1putt]

It's all disgusting.  Chew, cigarettes, cigars.... totally gross and serves no purpose.

[Ernest Jones]

Originally Posted by Johnny1putt

It's all disgusting.  Chew, cigarettes, cigars.... totally gross and serves no purpose.

I'm an ex-smoker so I tend to agree. But, unless I've misunderstood, this is a thread for tobacco user to share tobacco related anecdotes and what-not. It is not a thread for non-smokers to come and preach.

[MPtheKid]

Originally Posted by Johnny1putt

It's all disgusting.  Chew, cigarettes, cigars.... totally gross and serves no purpose.

You're entitled to your opinion. Tobacco has no health benefits, that's true. But full lip of skoal = breakfast of champions. Obviously, I do not spit on greens, tee boxes, etc.

[saevel25]

I could care less if someone wants to chew tobacco, but do not spit near the green. Honestly its disgusting, and it ruins the green. Carry around an empty gatorade bottle or something.

As for other forms of tabaco. My personal preference is for them to be outlawed. To me, 2nd hand smoke is nothing short of unintentional assault. Its sad to see someone, who's never smoked, end up with lung cancer because they lived in a household were there was a smoker, or interacted around those that smoke. People shouldn't be harmed by others for living a healthy lifestyle. Since this will never happen, i tend to try to hold my breath if i walk past someone who is smoking. I doubt it will help, but its better than breathing in that poison.

[ridenemwild]

Breakfast of champions? I don't know about that but if I dont have a pinch in the morning my normally calm personality is a lot more volatile.

[ridenemwild]

I'm not arguing with you saevel25 because i hate 2nd smoke as well but I would expect the smog in most cities/ large towns to cause more harm to your lungs than walking by someone smoking. On another note does anyone here smoke a pipe? I will always have good memories of going hunting with my dad and him smoking his pipe when we took a break ( it is the only time he would have aanything to do with tobacco products).

[Zachari208]

I smoke during my rounds, never throw my butts on the course and avoid smoking when im walking close to someone who doesn't like it. What I really hate is all the asshats who spit sunflower seeds all over the greens!!! I Don't want to pick up your craps that has been in your mouth.

[Wisguy]

I think the majority of guys smoking cigars are trying to compensate for something.  I wish instead they'd get a Viagra prescription and deal with their problem in a manner that doesn't bother other people.  I'm not exaggerating when I say that to me the smell of a cigar is every bit as foul and obnoxious as the smell coming out of a litter box that hasn't been cleaned in a week.

I'm allergic to tobacco smoke and absolutely hate any form of smoking.  From my experience, less than one percent of smokers are actually conscientous, thoughtful people - nearly all smokers toss their damn butts on the ground but somehow don't think that's littering; I wonder what the total annual cost to taxpayers is from fighting forest and grass fires started by smokers flicking a lit cigarette on the ground.  The overwhelming majority of smokers think that if it's the outdoors, their smoke can't possibly bother anyone and if it does, the non-smoker is being unreasonable and should just move.

[ridenemwild]

+1 zachari208

[Golfingdad]

Originally Posted by Wisguy

The overwhelming majority of smokers think that if it's the outdoors, their smoke can't possibly bother anyone and if it does, the non-smoker is being unreasonable and should just move.

As a non-smoker, I tend to agree with this.  Not your take, but with the smokers sentiment that their smoke doesn't bother me, and if the smoke happens to be coming my way, rather than be unreasonable, I'll just move.

I'm all for all of the taxes we put on smokers and the regulations on all the public places we prevent them from smoking.  Totally.  I love not having to worry about cigarette smoke on the airplane or in the restaurant, or hell, for that matter, in a lot of the casinos anymore.  We've made it pretty darn inconvenient for smokers these days ... and rightfully so, I believe.  However ...

The least I can do is not give them shit about wanting to enjoy a cigarette or cigar outdoors.

(guys who toss their butts on the greens or tees when their done with them are another story though)

[Dave2512]

It's almost impossible to avoid second hand smoke on the course unless the smoker is overly considerate, no smoking in areas where you'll be near.

[saevel25]

Originally Posted by ridenemwild

I'm not arguing with you saevel25 because i hate 2nd smoke as well but I would expect the smog in most cities/ large towns to cause more harm to your lungs than walking by someone smoking.

On another note does anyone here smoke a pipe? I will always have good memories of going hunting with my dad and him smoking his pipe when we took a break ( it is the only time he would have aanything to do with tobacco products).

I agree, i am not here to argue. Its pretty much fact that 2nd hand smoke is just as bad as smoking. I have my personal opinions on it, and do not shy away from voicing them in this regard. I wont change my mind, no matter what people say about it, smokers or non-smokers. I have to agree on the large cities, and living in areas were the air quality is bad.

Originally Posted by Wisguy

The overwhelming majority of smokers think that if it's the outdoors, their smoke can't possibly bother anyone and if it does, the non-smoker is being unreasonable and should just move.

If you can smell the smoke, then its 2nd hand smoke. I was sitting in my car, windows down. A guy blew out smoke out of his car window from the car in front of me. I could smell the smoke from my car because the wind was blowing my way. He was in his car, and i got 2nd hand smoke because i happened to pull up behind him. You'd be shocked at how much smoke lingers in the air. Its that type of, "Their smoke can't possibly bother anyone". That's the same type of response you hear from a person who's had to much to drink, "Oh i am perfectly able to drive". Then there taking out another car. Read up on 2nd hand smoke.

[rehmwa]

Originally Posted by Wisguy

From my experience, less than one percent of smokers are actually conscientous, thoughtful people - nearly all smokers toss their damn butts on the ground but somehow don't think that's littering;

Yet 99% claim that they always use an ashtray, go outside and away from others to smoke, and never, ever throw the butt out of the car window or on the ground.

There's a disconnect in what they think and say they do, vs what they actually do.  Or, that 1% that doesn't care seem to stand at the entrance of every public building, and then run into the street to fill the gutters with butts and then light up and run to their cars so they can pitch a few more out the window in front of my car.  They must be very busy.

(It's REALLY bad, and it's bad everywhere.  But, because of this, whenever I actually, personally, see the rare smoker truly trying to be courteous in the ways the others just claim to, I'll go out of my way to thank them.)

[phan52]

Originally Posted by MPtheKid

You're entitled to your opinion. Tobacco has no health benefits, that's true. But full lip of skoal = breakfast of champions. Obviously, I do not spit on greens, tee boxes, etc.

I wish guys on my course would heed that advice. Plus the cigar smokers who leave giant ash bugs on the greens.

I used to enjoy a cigar during a round of golf but not anymore. I find it kind of distracting.