2013 PGA Championship at Oak Hill Discussion Thread

[bplewis24]

Originally Posted by Golfingnutter

The media asked him what he thinks of the greens. What is he supposed to say, that they are perfect and he can't wait to putt on these silky pieces of heaven? I don't understand why it is being perceived that he is making excuses when he is just giving his opinion. No matter what he says he gets slack from someone. Just be grateful that we can watch this legendary career unfold in our lifetime.

[hypocritenutter]

Haha, no that is me. If you could see where that drive ended up you would have known it's not Louis :)

[Golfingdad]

Originally Posted by bplewis24

This is just how things are for Tiger. Last week before the Bridgestone, he said something about the greens being "patchy" and slow, and how the greenskeepers would have a challenge on it's hands getting them to roll as fast as they expected them to by the weekend. The resulting article headline was "Tiger Critical of Bridgestone Greens" or something. The comments were about 75% along the lines of "stop complaining Tiger!!! It's not the greens' fault you can't putt!"

Well, he wasn't actually complaining to begin with, but we know how that turned out. Such is always the dilemma of athletes: you can give insightful, articulate answers with substance and depth, and you're going to eventually find somebody to parse your words and spin it negatively if they don't like you. The alternative is to be cliche, vague and curt, in which case you get called an a**hole.

Not to nitpick relatively inconsequential facts ... but I think you're confusing the article.  He went to Oak Hill just prior to heading to Firestone, and it was the Oak Hill greens he was asked about.  But the crux of your argument is dead on.  The article was spun to make it sound like he was whining and complaining about the greens (when all he was doing was stating that they were slow), and buried at the very end of it, was another comment from Tiger basically saying he had little doubts that they'd get them running true and fast by tournament time.  I don't think most people even read that far into the article because they're too excited to take the author's bait and start criticizing him for "complaining" when he did nothing of the sort.

P.S.  Not a Tiger apologist here ... just a "hater" of what passes for journalism these days.

P.P.S.  Here's my post from a week ago, complete with Tiger's actual quote ... http://thesandtrap.com/t/68920/2013-pga-championship-at-oak-hill-discussion-thread/0_30#post_876785

[Beachcomber]

Originally Posted by bplewis24

Looks the quote tool is not working?  Anyway... I was getting a kick out of your vernacular.  'curt'.  LOL  I don't think I've ever seen that before?

[bplewis24]

Originally Posted by Golfingdad

Not to nitpick relatively inconsequential facts ... but I think you're confusing the article.  He went to Oak Hill just prior to heading to Firestone, and it was the Oak Hill greens he was asked about.  But the crux of your argument is dead on.  The article was spun to make it sound like he was whining and complaining about the greens (when all he was doing was stating that they were slow), and buried at the very end of it, was another comment from Tiger basically saying he had little doubts that they'd get them running true and fast by tournament time.  I don't think most people even read that far into the article because they're too excited to take the author's bait and start criticizing him for "complaining" when he did nothing of the sort.

P.S.  Not a Tiger apologist here ... just a "hater" of what passes for journalism these days.

P.P.S.  Here's my post from a week ago, complete with Tiger's actual quote ... http://thesandtrap.com/t/68920/2013-pga-championship-at-oak-hill-discussion-thread/0_30#post_876785

Okay, that makes more sense.  Back at the time, I didn't understand why I thought I read him say "in a couple weeks" when the tournament was in a couple days.  Also, thanks for putting me on to that post.  You'll find out in a few minutes.

Originally Posted by Beachcomber

Looks the quote tool is not working?  Anyway... I was getting a kick out of your vernacular.  'curt'.  LOL  I don't think I've ever seen that before?

I have pretty bad grammar sometimes, so I try and make up for it and get all "fancy"

[tmac20]

My prediction: Adam Scott and Jason Dufner will both do better than Tiger Woods.

[iacas]

Originally Posted by tmac20

My prediction: Adam Scott and Jason Dufner will both do better than Tiger Woods.

How much do you want to bet on that?

[tmac20]

How much do you want to bet on that?

If I am wrong, I will set my avatar to Brandel Chamblee for a month.

[iacas]

Originally Posted by tmac20

If I am wrong, I will set my avatar to Brandel Chamblee for a month.

Okey dokey.

[tmac20]

Okey dokey.

And if I am right?

[iacas]

And if I am right?

Why waste time considering the unlikely? :-)

[Golfingdad]

And if I am right?

Ill set my avatar to rory sabatini with my face in it ;)

[Zwick]

Marquee group coverage (TW, Bradley, Love III) has started: http://www.pga.com/pgachampionship/live/player.html

[Jeremie Boop]

Anyone else want to smack Keegan after watching his preshot routine more than 3 times?

[TJBam]

Is there a live chat running?

[Slice of Life]

Originally Posted by TJBam

Is there a live chat running?

I checked a couple of minutes ago and didn't see anything.

www.thesandtrap.com/chat right?

[TJBam]

Originally Posted by Slice of Life

I checked a couple of minutes ago and didn't see anything.

www.thesandtrap.com/chat right?

Yeah it looks empty.  I hopped in

[iacas]

Tiger just stuck it on 13. I am going to go play golf. I'll see how he did this afternoon. :)