Jump to content
Check out the Spin Axis Podcast! ×
Check out the Spin Axis Podcast!
IGNORED

2014 PGA Championship Discussion Thread

mvmac

By mvmac
in Tour Talk

 Share
Note: This thread is 4215 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Recommended Posts

9iron Dedicated Member

9iron

Posted
Posted
I think Michael Breed is doing commentary on the PGA.com broadcast.

They asked him why Tiger hit it left. He said something on the lines off, the hips move too far forward and didn't rotate, when the hips stop rotating it caused the hands to close down and the ball to go left.

Any thoughts on this analysis?

He is 100% correct. Think about it, if your hips stop moving but your arms do not stop moving then the clubhead will end up going thru the hit zone early relative to your hips, and it will be with a closed face. Ball goes left.


  • Replies 1.7k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Popular Posts

ChrisP
ChrisP

Dear Colin Montgomerie:

jamo
jamo

Think of it this way: Rory isn't trying to win three straight events, he's trying to win the PGA. And given how well he's played lately, he's got as good a chance to do that as anyone. To think that i

nevets88
nevets88

I can always find an illegal stream I guess. If I come to Amsterdam, it will be for perhaps these:

David in FL Incredible Member

David in FL

Posted
Posted

Is anyone else as unimpressed as I am with Michael Breed's "expert" commentary and swing analysis?

In David's bag....

Driver: Titleist 910 D-3;  9.5* Diamana Kai'li
3-Wood: Titleist 910F;  15* Diamana Kai'li
Hybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'li
Irons: Titleist 695cb 5-Pw
Wedges: Scratch 51-11 TNC grind, Vokey SM-5's;  56-14 F grind and 60-11 K grind
Putter: Scotty Cameron Kombi S
Ball: ProV1

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1
1
1
1
1

rehmwa Super Member

rehmwa

Posted
Posted
Is anyone else as unimpressed as I am with Michael Breed's "expert" commentary and swing analysis?


I with you.  But I don't know how to do one - that I would be impressed with - if stuck with 90 second sound bites.

I don't like his McLessons, but I suspect he's decent when giving 'real' lessons.

Bill - 

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1
1

jamo Incredible Member

jamo

Posted
Posted
Maybe the worst thing about this shitty stream is that if you refresh the page you have to sit another 30 seconds through the same Mercedes ad.

In my bag:

Driver: Titleist TSi3 | 15º 3-Wood: Ping G410 | 17º 2-Hybrid: Ping G410 | 19º 3-Iron: TaylorMade GAPR Lo |4-PW Irons: Nike VR Pro Combo | 54º SW, 60º LW: Titleist Vokey SM8 | Putter: Odyssey Toulon Las Vegas H7

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1
1
1

Kieran123 Great Member

Kieran123

Posted
Posted

Maybe the worst thing about this shitty stream is that if you refresh the page you have to sit another 30 seconds through the same Mercedes ad.

AdBlock :)

:tmade: SLDR X-Stiff 12.5°
:nike:VRS Covert 3 Wood Stiff
:nike:VRS Covert 3 Hybrid Stiff
:nike:VR Pro Combo CB 4 - PW Stiff 2° Flat
:cleveland:588RTX CB 50.10 GW
:cleveland:588RTX CB 54.10 SW
:nike:VR V-Rev 60.8 LW
:nike:Method 002 Putter


9iron Dedicated Member

9iron

Posted
Posted
Is anyone else as unimpressed as I am with Michael Breed's "expert" commentary and swing analysis?

If you are referring to what he said about Tiger's hips not rotating and his hands coming thru fast he is right about that. If you stay "connected" and hit the ball straight, what happens when you are suddenly no longer connected because you stopped rotating your hips? Your hands would have gotten the club face thru early, and past square, so it is now shut at impact. Ball goes left.


9iron Dedicated Member

9iron

Posted
Posted

Tiger slowed that swing down, and hit it straight. Much better control of his tempo. Good swing.


ChrisP Great Member

ChrisP

Posted
Posted

Whenever I see Kevin Chappell I think of Dustin Johnson. I don't know why....but they look kinda like each other, especially the way they wear the hat and the sideburns. Almost identical.


David in FL Incredible Member

David in FL

Posted
Posted

If you are referring to what he said about Tiger's hips not rotating and his hands coming thru fast he is right about that. If you stay "connected" and hit the ball straight, what happens when you are suddenly no longer connected because you stopped rotating your hips? Your hands would have gotten the club face thru early, and past square, so it is now shut at impact. Ball goes left.

Not what I was talking about.  Just an overall general observation.  Started early on today when he was talking about the importance of paying attention to the direction of a divot and the flight of the displaced turf in analyzing a swing.

I've just never cared for his version of McLessons......and so far today I haven't heard anything to change that.

In David's bag....

Driver: Titleist 910 D-3;  9.5* Diamana Kai'li
3-Wood: Titleist 910F;  15* Diamana Kai'li
Hybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'li
Irons: Titleist 695cb 5-Pw
Wedges: Scratch 51-11 TNC grind, Vokey SM-5's;  56-14 F grind and 60-11 K grind
Putter: Scotty Cameron Kombi S
Ball: ProV1

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1
1
1
1
1

Golfingdad Incredible Member

Golfingdad

Posted
Posted
Whenever I see Kevin Chappell I think of Dustin Johnson. I don't know why....but they look kinda like each other, especially the way they wear the hat and the sideburns. Almost identical.

If Dustin Johnson shaved ...

Now I'm curious:  Has anybody ever seen these two in the same place at the same time?!?!?!  Just sayin ... :-P

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1
1
1
1
1
1
1

jamo Incredible Member

jamo

Posted
Posted
If Dustin Johnson shaved ... Now I'm curious:  Has anybody ever seen these two in the same place at the same time?!?!?!  Just sayin ... :-P

DJ just will not take no for an answer!

In my bag:

Driver: Titleist TSi3 | 15º 3-Wood: Ping G410 | 17º 2-Hybrid: Ping G410 | 19º 3-Iron: TaylorMade GAPR Lo |4-PW Irons: Nike VR Pro Combo | 54º SW, 60º LW: Titleist Vokey SM8 | Putter: Odyssey Toulon Las Vegas H7

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1
1
1

9iron Dedicated Member

9iron

Posted
Posted

Not what I was talking about.  Just an overall general observation.  Started early on today when he was talking about the importance of paying attention to the direction of a divot and the flight of the displaced turf in analyzing a swing.

I've just never cared for his version of McLessons......and so far today I haven't heard anything to change that.

I did not see what Breed said, but the divot can indeed tell you something about what you did in your swing. Suppose the player intended to hit the ball with a slight inside to out swing, but their divot is pointing 20 degrees left, that tells the right handed player that his swing path was out to in, not in to out as had been intended. Not sure what the problem is with telling a learning player about this. When I learned to play golf a lifetime ago the teaching pro told me the same thing about checking out divots.


  • Moderator
nevets88 Incredible Member

nevets88

Posted
  • Moderator
Posted
Maybe the worst thing about this shitty stream is that if you refresh the page you have to sit another 30 seconds through the same Mercedes ad.

Curious, all. The PGA steam. How often have you had to restart? Do you use Adblock? So far 3 times since the start for me.

Steve

Kill slow play. Allow walking. Reduce ineffective golf instruction. Use environmentally friendly course maintenance.

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1
1

RJH999 Great Member

RJH999

Posted
Posted
Curious, all. The PGA steam. How often have you had to restart? Do you use Adblock?

I'm using the app..coverage starts in 45 minutes...

Riley


egolf Member

egolf

Posted
Posted

Curious, all. The PGA steam. How often have you had to restart? Do you use Adblock?


I use ad block. I've had to refresh several times but don't have to watch any ads.


  • Moderator
nevets88 Incredible Member

nevets88

Posted
  • Moderator
Posted
I did not see what Breed said, but the divot can indeed tell you something about what you did in your swing. Suppose the player intended to hit the ball with a slight inside to out swing, but their divot is pointing 20 degrees left, that tells the right handed player that his swing path was out to in, not in to out as had been intended. Not sure what the problem is with telling a learning player about this. When I learned to play golf a lifetime ago the teaching pro told me the same thing about checking out divots.

I'll stay out of the direction opinion but fat, yes divots will tell you about fat.

Steve

Kill slow play. Allow walking. Reduce ineffective golf instruction. Use environmentally friendly course maintenance.

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1
1

jamo Incredible Member

jamo

Posted
Posted
Curious, all. The PGA steam. How often have you had to restart? Do you use Adblock? So far 3 times since the start for me.

It works fine on my phone, but it locks up constantly on my Mac. Reloading the page stopped working after a while. I don't use Adblock.

In my bag:

Driver: Titleist TSi3 | 15º 3-Wood: Ping G410 | 17º 2-Hybrid: Ping G410 | 19º 3-Iron: TaylorMade GAPR Lo |4-PW Irons: Nike VR Pro Combo | 54º SW, 60º LW: Titleist Vokey SM8 | Putter: Odyssey Toulon Las Vegas H7

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1
1
1

14ledo81 Super Member

14ledo81

Posted
Posted

Quote:

Originally Posted by nevets88

Curious, all. The PGA steam. How often have you had to restart? Do you use Adblock?

So far 3 times since the start for me.

It works fine on my phone, but it locks up constantly on my Mac. Reloading the page stopped working after a while. I don't use Adblock.

I have had to reload many times.  It keeps working though.

-Matt-

"does it still count as a hit fairway if it is the next one over"

DRIVER-Callaway FTiz__3 WOOD-Nike SQ Dymo 15__HYBRIDS-3,4,5 Adams__IRONS-6-PW Adams__WEDGES-50,55,60 Wilson Harmonized__PUTTER-Odyssey Dual Force Rossie II

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1
1
1

Note: This thread is 4215 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing


  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up

  • TST Partners

    PlayBetter
    Golfer's Journal
    ShotScope
    The Stack System
    FitForGolf
    FlightScope Mevo
    Direct: Mevo, Mevo+, and Pro Package.

    Coupon Codes (save 10-20%): "IACAS" for Mevo/Stack/FitForGolf, "IACASPLUS" for Mevo+/Pro Package, and "THESANDTRAP" for ShotScope. 15% off TourStriker (no code).

  • Posts

    • iacas
      Erik J. Barzeski on the Golf IQ Podcast (Golf Digest) Series on Golf Dads

      By iacas · Posted

      I was on Golf Digest's Golf IQ podcast with Sam Weinman talking about being a "golf dad." https://www.golfdigest.com/story/5-golf-dads-advice I followed: Ian Poulter Mike Thomas Johnson Wagner Kevin Van Valkenburg Apparently the series was only five parts long, as they wrote up a summary article on it.   Golf Dad Part 5: Erik Barzeski on how to switch between father and instructor Podcast Episode · Golf IQ · March 2 · 35m Golf Dad Part 5: Erik Barzeski on how to switch between father and instructor — Golf IQ Erik Barzeski, Director of Instruction at Golf Evolution, is the father of a golf pro and an author, but also has the perspective of someone who works with juniors. The ability to switch between wearing those different...
    • Ty_Webb
      My Swing (Ty_Webb)

      By Ty_Webb · Posted

      They sure do. 158 with an 8 iron is on the high end for me
    • saevel25
      My Swing (saevel25)

      By saevel25 · Posted

      Went back to controlling my knees. That part was getting a bit sloppy when I worked on my backswing. Right hip didn't slide or gain internal rotation. I would just rotate back and around and the left knee would be in a bad spot. Really focusing now on keeping my left knee very stable and straighter in the backswing. I can't go back to the old pattern of overturning the hips. I was returning to my old pattern to time my downswing. Turn forever.  Left knee controls both knees and hips, acting as an anchor. Feel like it straightens a bit.   Hinge sooner and faster. Not in a way that sends the hands out and flips the club over. I still noticed when the hands get to A2.5, the hands would want to flip over and flatten the club out a ton.  Still trying to figure out how to roll the forearms a bit open and not just roll the club inside a ton.  Figure out the timing to get the hands down. Still getting a bit of right elbow collapsing in the downswing because the arms are too high when I turn. Everything is happening sooner now. If the hips are controlled, the backswing is shortened. Because it is shortened I don't know when to get the hands down and I just turn because the downswing is a go.  Very slow (50%) swings are decent.  
    • iacas
      My Swing (Ty_Webb)

      By iacas · Posted

      Distances look fine, no?
    • 5amZ
      "5 Minutes Daily" Practice Challenge

      By 5amZ · Posted

      Day 207-12 Wider backswing and arm reconnecting in downswing. Did a much better job with proper wrist movements through downswing today.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.

  I accept