Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
Layton

Walking Out Short Shots

27 posts in this topic

I was wondering how many of you guys walk out your shots around the green - meaning counting the number of steps from your ball to the hole and/or the spot where you want to land it.

I started doing it this season and it really helps a lot with consistency and confidence around the green. I've grooved myself into knowing pretty much how hard I need to hit it for X amount of steps and because of it my short game has never been better.

Anybody else do this or something similar?

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Want to get rid of this advertisement? Sign up (or log in) today! It's free!

If I'm close enough where a lasered yard doesn't really mean much (inside 40 or so), I'll walk up towards the hole, but I'm not counting paces. Just looking to find a landing spot and judge the slope near the hole. But that makes sense. I've gotten much better at half wedges since I got a laser rangefinder. Before, I had no idea if I was 40 or 70 yards away.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

If I'm close enough where a lasered yard doesn't really mean much (inside 40 or so), I'll walk up towards the hole, but I'm not counting paces. Just looking to find a landing spot and judge the slope near the hole. But that makes sense. I've gotten much better at half wedges since I got a laser rangefinder. Before, I had no idea if I was 40 or 70 yards away.

Pretty much this, and yep, I'll use a rangefinder for anything 40 yards or more....

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I was wondering how many of you guys walk out your shots around the green - meaning counting the number of steps from your ball to the hole and/or the spot where you want to land it.  I started doing it this season and it really helps a lot with consistency and confidence around the green. I've grooved myself into knowing pretty much how hard I need to hit it for X amount of steps and because of it my short game has never been better. Anybody else do this or something similar?

I do this all the time. Especially on chip shots. I'll pace off to where I'm planning on landing and then pace off the roll from there. The ratio of fly-roll will dictate which club I chip with, then I'll judge slope and possible modify the club choice if I think the slope will play a significant role. I also use this as an opportunity to get a read on break during the roll portion. I do it less when it's a pitch shot because I'm usually trying to limit roll on those and just get it close, but I will do it if I think I have a chance of it rolling in. I only do it if I'm close enough to have a reasonable chance of holing it.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I don't but if it helps there's nothing wrong with doing it. I just see the shot and shoot what I'm seeing. Like shooting a jump shot it's all down to feel at that point for me.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't but if it helps there's nothing wrong with doing it. I just see the shot and shoot what I'm seeing. Like shooting a jump shot it's all down to feel at that point for me.

Do you primarily use one club for everything around the green or do you vary club selection based in what you "see"? I ask because I agree about the "shooting what you see" aspect but personally find it helpful to know the precise ratio I'm seeing.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I don't but if it helps there's nothing wrong with doing it. .

As long as you do so quickly.... ;-)

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

As long as you do so quickly.... ;-)

Oh, I'm pretty snappy with it, as I am with Aimpoint green reading. I don't agonize over it, I just walk directly to the flag and back. Done. I pretty much know what club I'm using already so this is really just to firm it up in my mind so I can commit to the shot.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I ask because I agree about the "shooting what you see" aspect but personally find it helpful to know the precise ratio I'm seeing.

I probably use a SW about 75% of the time around the green and a PW 24% of the time. I'm liable to use anything the other 1%.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I definitely don't take very long. I'm the last person that would hold anybody up during a round. @David in FL Also, I don't have a rangefinder but the only problem I would have with using it is that I like to see the slope of the green and figure out where I'm landing it and account for the roll out etc. If I miss a green and need to save par I'm giving myself the shortest putt I can.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I do it on the short chips most of the time for club selection. I'm not worried about any extra time it might take, which is usually about a minute or so. On longer shots, for the most part, I've seen enough of them them to judge the distance pretty well. I might step off a longer one if the shot is really important.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I just do it mentally just like putting. I am counting paces in my head. With a chip/pitch shot withon 20 yards or so I walk to the edge of the green in between my ball and the hole and estimate paces to my ball and to my landing spot. Probably could walk it off in the same time but I don't want to eliminate the feel from that part of the game completely.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I walk off chips when I'm practicing. I've done that enough so I don't have to do it on the course. I chip mainly with a 9 iron and fly it 1/3 to the hole. I'll use a more lofted club when the iron won't land on the green. I'll use an 8 iron for longer chips which flies about 1/4 to the hole. I spend my time on the green looking for the break. Plus I say do anything you want as long as it doesn't hold up play.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Nope ... Mainly because it's just too much work ... Within 40ish yards it's all look and feel for me.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I walk off chips when I'm practicing. I've done that enough so I don't have to do it on the course. I chip mainly with a 9 iron and fly it 1/3 to the hole. I'll use a more lofted club when the iron won't land on the green. I'll use an 8 iron for longer chips which flies about 1/4 to the hole. I spend my time on the green looking for the break.

Plus I say do anything you want as long as it doesn't hold up play.

Sounds like we have the exact same approach to chipping. Rule of 12?

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Sounds like we have the exact same approach to chipping. Rule of 12?

Yep. Works like a charm. I've gotten pretty good at judging 1/3. I pick the spot and try to hit a little past it to make sure I swing through. Chipping is the best part of my game.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yep. Works like a charm. I've gotten pretty good at judging 1/3. I pick the spot and try to hit a little past it to make sure I swing through. Chipping is the best part of my game.

yeah, Rule of 12 works very well for me too. Pretty much always go for an 8 iron 4:1 ratio or a 9 iron 3:1 but have been know to go as low as my wedges if I don't have any green to work with. I  generally prefer to pitch but there's usually a few shots per round that call for a chip. I use @mvmac 's for all chipping, if I'm faced with a shot that doesn't feel right for this method, I'm going with a pitch.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I always look for the chip first (steady wrists and brush the grass). If that's not the best shot, then I pitch because there is more variability for me in a hinged wrist shot. Since I was only carrying 13 clubs for a while, I've picked up a 68* LW that really works nice for those tight shots.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0



  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • 2016 TST Partners

    GAME Golf
    PING Golf
    Lowest Score Wins
  • Posts

    • I know this is "under review" so to speak, but I would echo this. I went back Jeremie's swing thread; his receptivity to direction and subsequent swing changes has demonstrated his dedication, and his obedience has born out marked improvement. Nice job, Jeremie!
    • Errrr.... Typo: Els and not Else... Sorry about that :)
      Is there a way to edit a topic started post?
    • I readily admit that I'm a baby when it comes to humidity. Thankfully I live in a place where I don't usually have to worry about it.
    • Lessons, depending on your arrangement with your home course, can be a much better way to make money than if you just work in the shop.  In the shop I would imagine you're not making much more than $15 an hour, even as a professional, assuming that you aren't salaried to run the golf operation for a city. Even if you charged a relatively cheap rate of $50 an hour for lessons, and the course took half of your inexpensive fee, you would be making $10 more an hour than you would otherwise and it might be more enjoyable that pro shop work for you. Playing lessons could be even more lucrative depending on your rates, and you can even play some golf yourself (either playing with the player or demonstrating a shot, for example).  Youth programs can be highly profitable if that's something you're interested in. A local course with two PGA professionals has a weekly group lesson for junior golfers at $20 per person. On the days that this program is running they easily have 30-40 kids ($600-800) out there working on chipping and putting (and then the kids go out to walk nine holes afterwords). Depending on how your course operates and how busy it is this is something you could look into organizing. Put up flyers both on the course and in public areas where you are allowed to post things to get the word out. If you are somewhat tech and business inclined it might be a good idea to look into starting up a small business of your own selling golf apparel and equipment. Take advantage of your PGA membership and start up accounts with the major brands such as Titleist, PING, Taylormade, Scotty Cameron (they kind of do their stuff separate from Titleist) and put up a storefront on your own website. Squarespace is one web-hosting company I know of that does an excellent job of making it easy for you to put together what you want. Nearly everything in most golf shops is marked up at keystone pricing or higher, so there is definitely profit to be made if you can get some web traffic (and it never hurts to have it up for people to stumble upon).  Look up public courses in your area and figure out who the person in charge of contracting out the golf courses is. The title in my city is the "Golf Operations Manager", but this varies from city to city. Get to know this person and learn when the management contracts for various courses expire so you can put your bid in to run one of the courses on behalf of the city. This is where you'd likely end up making the most money, but it would be the most administrative of the options. You would likely be responsible for hiring, firing, reports, and other day to day tasks but the big advantage is that the city, in most cases, will allow you to use the pro shop to sell your own merchandise. This becomes huge since then the profits (or at least a large portion of them) from every pro shop sale goes into your pocket, though it does come with the added work of managing inventory and negotiating terms with the city. This is, though, by far the most lucrative option that would be somewhat easily (with enough background work and a good proposal/interview) attainable. One other thing, along the lines of the previous point, that you could do is see if there are any professionals that are contracted to run two golf courses through the city. My city currently works this way, but the professional has to subcontract the second course to another PGA professional in order to manage everything smoothly. As a result of this the professional at the course I work for (the subcontracted professional) is now a near shoe-in to win the bid to manage the golf course he's been running when the city contract becomes available this January, just because he has been running the show there for the last four years. Continuing to excel at your current position at the golf course while networking and getting to know your customers (a large factor for the aforementioned pro is that he has developed close ties with the clientele and has increased revenue as a result) is something that will be viewed favorably if you later put in a bid to manage the course.
    • It took me two years to get from a 24 handicap (my starting point) to about a 6-8 handicap when I started playing seriously. It then took me another two years to get from about a 7 to a 2. In the last year I had a big jump that got me from the 2 handicap to my current +1.5, which I would consider to be the largest leap I've ever made (which is somewhat funny, considering I've probably practiced the least in the last year as compared to previous years). It just kind of clicked for me that it's okay to expect to make birdies, whereas before I felt like I never could make any.
  • TST Blog Entries

  • Images

  • Today's Birthdays

    1. JLeeWildcat9
      JLeeWildcat9
      (30 years old)
    2. Ping Man
      Ping Man
      (52 years old)
  • Blog Entries