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[jmanbooyaa]

I was in Golfsmith today and gave the RSI 2 a go on the simulator. Asked which was the game improving irons and was told the RsI 2. I hit it with a stock kbs 90/reg. Wow miss hits with a 7 iron went 157 solid hits over 172. Perhaps a juiced up sim. Would have likes to try the rsi1 with the 90 TT shaft.

[newtogolf]

I was in Golfsmith today and gave the RSI 2 a go on the simulator. Asked which was the game improving irons and was told the RsI 2. I hit it with a stock kbs 90/reg. Wow miss hits with a 7 iron went 157 solid hits over 172. Perhaps a juiced up sim. Would have likes to try the rsi1 with the 90 TT shaft.

The sim in the Lake Grove Golfsmith is definitely juiced up (at least it has been whenever I test clubs there).  The one time I brought my existing driver in to test against other drivers they sales person had to "make an adjustment" to the sim before I hit my old driver.

[Spitfisher]

I was in Golfsmith today and gave the RSI 2 a go on the simulator. Asked which was the game improving irons and was told the RsI 2. I hit it with a stock kbs 90/reg. Wow miss hits with a 7 iron went 157 solid hits over 172. Perhaps a juiced up sim. Would have likes to try the rsi1 with the 90 TT shaft.

I'm not sure what juicing you are referring to, Its been my experience operating (with factory training) of various manufactures of simulators, that their minor adjustments of tee height, distance form tee, elevation, indoor and outdoor etc . Particularly with driver I am not convinced you'll see a relative number. These program adjustments simply allow better vision & raw data to be collected- not to meaningfully influence results.

The adjustment the tech may have made likely was choosing the actual club you are using compared to the previous consumer who may have been hitting a 3wood, or to simply erase previous history or cashe.

The extra yardage you experienced may have had more to do with hitting the RSi ( after all that is the design parameter of the face slots is to ensure distance on mishits)  a lighter but more responsive shaft than what you currently use, a higher launch with lower spin. and lastly the length of shaft maybe a little longer than your Gamer 7 iron.

[Pretzel]

These program adjustments simply allow better vision & raw data to be collected- not to meaningfully influence results.

While what the rest of you said was true, this could be false. I've snooped into the settings of some Golfsmith simulators (settings in the software on the computer, not the actual device) and found a "distance gain" option which was set between 1.09 and 1.15 the different times I've seen it. They say it's to compensate for altitude, but that would be a static (not changing) adjustment in that case.

[Lihu]

While what the rest of you said was true, this could be false. I've snooped into the settings of some Golfsmith simulators (settings in the software on the computer, not the actual device) and found a "distance gain" option which was set between 1.09 and 1.15 the different times I've seen it. They say it's to compensate for altitude, but that would be a static (not changing) adjustment in that case.

I think I've seen this.

I made two trips to Golfsmith separated by a month and one time I struggled to get 220 yards then later on I was getting 260 yards. My actual course distances on well struck straight shots are around 240 yards give or take 10-30 yards depending upon the actual conditions.

My guess is that this tweak caused the drastic changes in my distances.

[Spitfisher]

While what the rest of you said was true, this could be false. I've snooped into the settings of some Golfsmith simulators (settings in the software on the computer, not the actual device) and found a "distance gain" option which was set between 1.09 and 1.15 the different times I've seen it. They say it's to compensate for altitude, but that would be a static (not changing) adjustment in that case.

I think I've seen this.

I made two trips to Golfsmith separated by a month and one time I struggled to get 220 yards then later on I was getting 260 yards. My actual course distances on well struck straight shots are around 240 yards give or take 10-30 yards depending upon the actual conditions.

My guess is that this tweak caused the drastic changes in my distances.

So you both subscribe to the theory they are amping up the results of these simulators to sell clubs in fitting bays at golfsmiths and then they are backing it down for each person that steps onto the tee with their own driver/iron for comparison.  And you are both subscribing to the notion that the software can be manipulated in this manner...............Very interesting.

[Pretzel]

So you both subscribe to the theory they are amping up the results of these simulators to sell clubs in fitting bays at golfsmiths and then they are backing it down for each person that steps onto the tee with their own driver/iron for comparison.  And you are both subscribing to the notion that the software can be manipulated in this manner...............Very interesting. [URL=http://thesandtrap.com/content/type/61/id/109300/] [/URL]

I have seen, with my own two eyes, the song that can be used to do that. I'm not saying they change it when you hit your own clubs, but the setting is right there and I've seen it set at different levels before. All I'm saying is that the setting exists and that it is used (if it wasn't used the observed number would not have changed our varied). The setting literally was called "Distance Gain".

[GoodGuyGreg45]

Do folks just feel cool hitting blades? Is it because pros use them so it makes them feel closer to a pro? Don't go with the workability factor either because I can hook my speedblades as hard as my driver and slice them as much too.

Have you ever hit a pure shot with a blade? It is close to the best feeling in the world. It is just not worth giving up all the distance on mishits for those few and far between pured shots for most amateurs. Hence the RSi2 and TP trying to combine look, feel, and performance. Blades usually have less offset as well. Personally, I feel I really have to sling the ball to get any shape with a SGI club, say Speedblades, where as a TP MC type of club with less offset allows me I can hit the slight draw and fade.

[saevel25]

Have you ever hit a pure shot with a blade? It is close to the best feeling in the world. It is just not worth giving up all the distance on mishits for those few and far between pured shots for most amateurs. Hence the RSi2 and TP trying to combine look, feel, and performance. Blades usually have less offset as well. Personally, I feel I really have to sling the ball to get any shape with a SGI club, say Speedblades, where as a TP MC type of club with less offset allows me I can hit the slight draw and fade.

Game Improvement irons are getting really good at copying the feel of blade irons. I found a few irons that I could hardly tell the difference between the two. The reason I like blade irons is because I can feel the off center hits more often. I like to know when I thinned one, or toed one. I know it hurts my distance, but I think the feedback is better because I can search for a more centered hit better.

Also, Game Improvement irons are just as easy to work as blade irons as well. Ok I take that back, they might be slightly harder because the COG is higher and it causes a lower ball flight. So the effective loft at impact is lower. Lower lofted clubs are easier to work. I would be it isn't even noticeable.

I've hooked my old Taylormade Burner irons just as easy as my Mizuno MP-59's

Offset doesn't really do much except influence how you align the club (tendency is to aim left more often). You are talking fractions of an inch for a clubhead moving at 60-70 mph. The clubhead is basically rotating from 90 degrees open (at the top of the swing) to a near square position at impact in less than a second. The closure speed is absurd. The offset might account for maybe a fraction of an a degree at best in terms of influencing ball flight.

Offset to me is all cosmetic.

[newtogolf]

Game Improvement irons are getting really good at copying the feel of blade irons. I found a few irons that I could hardly tell the difference between the two. The reason I like blade irons is because I can feel the off center hits more often. I like to know when I thinned one, or toed one. I know it hurts my distance, but I think the feedback is better because I can search for a more centered hit better.

Also, Game Improvement irons are just as easy to work as blade irons as well. Ok I take that back, they might be slightly harder because the COG is higher and it causes a lower ball flight. So the effective loft at impact is lower. Lower lofted clubs are easier to work. I would be it isn't even noticeable.

I've hooked my old Taylormade Burner irons just as easy as my Mizuno MP-59's

I agree, GI have come a long way in being able to work the ball left or right but I still think they are tougher than blades for controlling trajectory.  Most GI irons are combined with shafts that are designed to get the ball up in the air which can make hitting a lower trajectory shot more difficult.

[Lihu]

Here's the TP version: [VIDEO]http://youtu.be/OZW2JYOvtF8[/VIDEO] Looks interesting. . .

[Jazzfan]

I went to Golfsmith the other day looking for an iron that was a little easier to hit.  My current iron was the Apex Pro.  I have been struggling with some serious iron related issues since switching from my former Ping i20's.  I know the manager at Golfsmith and he sold me a set of Taylormade rsi 2 irons for $350.  So I decided why not.  So I kept my Apex irons just in case these did not work out.  I attached my Arccos trackers to them and off I went.  Believe the hype on the forgiveness of these irons.  Mishits are so much better and the loss of distance off the toe and hell are nearly not noticeable.  The only problem I am having with the irons is the crazy distance off these clubs.  My 4 iron is getting upwards 230 yards and its not uncommon to step on a 190 yard 7 iron.  And these distances are measured with the Arccos over 5 rounds at Denver altitude.  The slots on the face are not noticeable and they even frame the ball up nicely.  The 8-gap wedge are forged and they feel very nice.  So the next step is to order up a matching 3 iron.  These things nearly hit the ball for you they are that easy to hit.

I have not purchased a taylormade product in over 6 years because of their ability to release a new product every 2 months making the trade value of my current product useless.  So I took huge gamble with these bad boys and it appears to be paying off in spades.  And to make matters better I posted my low round of the season of a 77.

So for whats its worth here is my review of the irons.  Its a little late but I hope it helps anyone who is still looking to buy irons this late in the season

[Duff McGee]

I can't even explain how much I love my Rsi1's.

[RGoosen]

Just got custom fit for the rsi 2 irons.

[Duff McGee]

Just got custom fit for the rsi 2 irons.

Congrats!

[RGoosen]

Congrats!

Thanks. I like my current irons (Ping i20's) but I got fitted before I started taking lessons. They are now way too upright. I used to play with irons 1/2 extended but thought that going to standard length would help my accuracy...but all that did was get me to start hitting on the toe since I am tall. The new ones will be 1/2 inch extended. The only thing I did that I question myself on is I switched from the regular project x 5.5, to px95 5.5 flighted. I hit them well in the store and it is a drastic change...I hope. :)