Should I buy the Rogue Draw to help with fade?

[Steve4445]

has anyone had experience with the rogue draw driver?

I have a habit of fading off the tee and end up in the bushes or the next fairway. Will a rogue draw driver help me?

I also want to know its obviously something to do with my swing if I get the Rogue Draw and improve my swing will it over compensate and end up on the other side of the fairway?

[freshmanUTA]

No matter what club you buy the ball is going to follow the ball flight laws. So the short answer is: No, no club can help you hit a draw if you slice.

[Steve4445]

most of my drives hit the centre of the fairway in the air but fade massively late in the air. Would you recommend just buying the rogue driver and learn to hit that straight? obviously fading is not an easy issue to fix if they come out with the draw model. lol

 

[dennyjones]

Here is some good reading:

Ball Flight Laws

[Foot Wedge]

10 hours ago, Steve4445 said:

Would you recommend just buying the rogue driver and learn to hit that straight?

I would recommend taking lessons if you haven't.  If it's fading too much, bordering on a slice, your swing path may be too far outside to inside.  Feel free to create a swing thread.  you'll get some good advice there.  But lessons would be money better spent than a top dollar driver IMHO.

[rehmwa]

Lessons.  Ball flight laws.  Getting fit for your clubs is a great idea (so go ahead, but don't just pre-assume any specific club), but in the end, it's all about your skill.  I'm getting fit in a couple weeks and kinda want to end up with the Rogue, but I hit stock drivers Saturday and it didn't help at all, the Epic and the M4 looked a LOT better (all stiff shafts, but different brands and models, so who knows?).  But I'll still go to the fitting and hit several and see what happens after they all match shaft and heads and pick the best one that pleases my eyes....

and once I get the new wood set, I'll still have to 'hit' them right...

 

Unless this is just a stealth vendor ad - if so, we'd all be super happy if you wanted to donate a few Rogues for member reviews......  

[dbuck]

What you want to do is fix your swing path before investing in the Rogue.  The Rogue Draw from what I have heard, is a VERY draw biased club. So once you have a correct swing path, you would be constantly fighting a hook. Then get fit for the Rogue by a certified fitter in whatever configuration works best.

Full disclosure, I have a regular Rogue and I did not get properly fitted, other than hitting a couple different shafts and heads, including the draw on a monitor.

[Steve4445]

thanks for the response guys, I've been playing for all of about 2 months.

I had my first lesson last week which he got me to bring my hands closer to my body (my hands were outstretched) causing a later fade on my irons and the driver. It took a bit to get used to but my iron work is pretty good now but my driving is still a big issue. During the lesson I was hitting them beautifully but then straight after on the course I was missing most fairways haha.

I will look to book in some more lessons and then try and fix from there, in the meantime its hybrid off the tee which I can hit straight 90% of the time.

the main reason why I was looking at asking you all is because I was trying to avoid a fitting purely as I was looking at the rent to buy options online and I don't want to go into a shop let them fit me up and go elsewhere that would be a bit of a dick move on my part. I think I will continue with lessons and Save my pennies to buy it outright from somewhere that can fit it to me.

 

[Patch]

The ball only goes where the golfer's swing hits it. There are no "magic" clubs out there. 

I don't know what the club cost the OP is talking about, but it might cover the cost of a few lessons. Those lessons could fix the swing causing those fade/slices. 

[rehmwa]

On 26/03/2018 at 11:02 AM, dbuck said:

What you want to do is fix your swing path before investing in the Rogue.  The Rogue Draw from what I have heard, is a VERY draw biased club. So once you have a correct swing path, you would be constantly fighting a hook. Then get fit for the Rogue by a certified fitter in whatever configuration works best.

This comment resonates with me.  I used to have a big fade/slice.  My first adjustable driver I played with it and set it to compensate as much as I can.

......then I took two freaking lessons.......just two....but I took the info seriously and practiced a lot

Shortcut to a short time later.  I put my 'adjustable' driver settings all back to default and never moved them since.  So much of the 'adjustability' IMO is just a sales pitch.  Get a decent swing, then go get fitted with clubs that match a good swing.  (fix your swing FIRST, then gear).

 

There's no magic bullet or piece of equipment I suspect.  Except for that "Square Strike" wedge - THOSE guys were HORRIBLE in the commercial and magically got better - - - so it must work.

15 hours ago, Steve4445 said:

I don't want to go into a shop let them fit me up and go elsewhere that would be a bit of a dick move on my part.

If you get a fitting and don't buy gear, they still get paid for the fitting.  Don't let that bother you. 

(What you need to be cautious is when the fitting is 'free' if you buy gear.  You need to make sure you are getting a good fitting, and not just a dog and pony show to make the sale.  It's a good deal, though, as long as you get the 'free' fitting from someone decent)

Edited March 27, 2018 by rehmwa

[cooke119]

If you have only been playing for about 2 months as you said above, work on your swing first unless you have the money to spend. I wouldn't jump into a draw biased club right away though. What are you using now?

[Steve4445]

6 hours ago, cooke119 said:

If you have only been playing for about 2 months as you said above, work on your swing first unless you have the money to spend. I wouldn't jump into a draw biased club right away though. What are you using now?

Yep Decided to take more lessons first, I have a hand me down Taylor made  driver at the moment that is probably 15 years old. I have had one lesson and most of the drives were going straight when he got me to change where I had my wrists and to cock my left hip. I played a round straight after and have been at the driving range and other rounds and I cant replicate it. Currently I am using the hybrid off the tee so I hit it straight.

 

[freshmanUTA]

On 3/26/2018 at 9:33 AM, rehmwa said:

Unless this is just a stealth vendor ad - if so, we'd all be super happy if you wanted to donate a few Rogues for member reviews......  

Yeah, but me first......

[Steve4445]

22 minutes ago, freshmanUTA said:

Yeah, but me first......

where do I send your free square strike hahaha

[WUTiger]

On 3/26/2018 at 8:27 AM, Foot Wedge said:

I would recommend taking lessons if you haven't.  If it's fading too much, bordering on a slice, your swing path may be too far outside to inside.  Feel free to create a swing thread.

I know several golfers who were baseball players or softball players and complain of slicing the driver. They hit their irons OK, but slice the driver. A lesson can help you find the root cause of your slice.

[lastings]

Draw biased clubs are not bad and can help to fix a fade.  But, really only if that fade is created at your club face. 

It sounds to me like you are pulling your driver left and fade/slicing back to the middle.   This is created by path.   

If your fade is path driven and you buy a driver that helps close the face, you'll just end up with nasty duck hooks.   ick.  

 

fix that path.  then, if you have the path going in-to-out, and you are just leaving the club face open creating a push fade, then you might consider driver settings.  

 

 

[Mr. Desmond]

Compare Rogue with G400 Max and G400 SFT before you buy and save $100.

If you want to eliminate that fade/slice - plenty of advice on youtube.

The swing path is a small arc - if you start out with a wide arc, you will ... slice (in general). Think of your hands as going in a tighter arc, and start squaring up the clubface before you get to the bottom of the swing

[Steve4445]

13 hours ago, lastings said:

Draw biased clubs are not bad and can help to fix a fade.  But, really only if that fade is created at your club face. 

It sounds to me like you are pulling your driver left and fade/slicing back to the middle.   This is created by path.   

If your fade is path driven and you buy a driver that helps close the face, you'll just end up with nasty duck hooks.   ick.  

 

fix that path.  then, if you have the path going in-to-out, and you are just leaving the club face open creating a push fade, then you might consider driver settings.  

 

 

I had a lesson this morning and he fixed my fade/slice dramatically.

My problem was that at the top of my arc of the swing I wasn't bringing the club back down quick enough compared to the turn of my body so by the time of impact my shoulders are pointing to far left so infact it wouldn't matter if the clubface was closed or not it was still going to be slicing. Hope that makes sense?