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http://www.golfdigest.com/golf-equip...alls_spinchart

Interesting article with difference combinations of spin, bounce, and golf balls. For those who seek a little more wedge spin, maybe one of these golf balls could help.

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Canuck Well Established Member

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Its very interesting article. The V1 and V1x are very comparable with the Z-star and Z-starX, roughly same spin at a low launch angle, so if you want more spin look no further.

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I thought the Pro V1 was supposed to spin more than the Pro V1X, thus why the Pro V1X is recommended for players who already can spin the ball a lot.

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Read the numbers. ProV1 has slightly more spin.

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If you look at the spin rate in the table versus the placement on the figure, you'll see that the Pro V1 does spin more than the V1x.
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Why does the launch angle vary by a total of 8.7* across the balls? Is this actually partially dictated by the ball, or where they just inconsistent?

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Why does the launch angle vary by a total of 8.7* across the balls? Is this actually partially dictated by the ball, or where they just inconsistent?

Some balls are set to launch high since they don't have much spin. (sirixon AD333)

I think spin also affects how high shots go so the balls with more spin have to start out lower?
I thought the Pro V1 was supposed to spin more than the Pro V1X, thus why the Pro V1X is recommended for players who already can spin the ball a lot.

I don't think that test was using a SS of 100+, there's more of a difference at that level.

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Anyone know the physics behind launch angle? The chart shows that high spin balls launch lower, but ehy is that? Because they are softer? I wouldn't think that the spin rate itself made any significant impact on the initial launch angle, coming straight off the club face. Softness, how the ball is compressed and how long it stays on the club face may dictate something. The more spin you get, the higher the ball will climb, so I don't see the relationship there.

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The chart shows that high spin balls launch lower, but ehy is that? Because they are softer?

In a word, yes. That's typically the biggest reason.

That's why range balls typically fly so high too.

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Anyone know the physics behind launch angle? The chart shows that high spin balls launch lower, but ehy is that? Because they are softer? I wouldn't think that the spin rate itself made any significant impact on the initial launch angle, coming straight off the club face. Softness, how the ball is compressed and how long it stays on the club face may dictate something. The more spin you get, the higher the ball will climb, so I don't see the relationship there.

I believe it is that while a softer ball sticks to the face, a harder ball slides up it a little, making it launch higher.

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Thats because the harder the ball will slide up the club face more and start off at a higher launch angle.

I believe that Pro v1 spin versus pro v1x is regards to spin off the driver head. There are two types of spin now, due to how the layers in the golf ball are created. Pro v1 & Pro v1x will spin different off the driver and about the same off irons. that chart is for half wedge shots, so i believe this spin differential is less on slower club head speed, ie short irons compared with driver.

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I've been thinking to buy some Volkey square groove wedges before they disappear but I played with a buddys last week and on a full well struck shot w/ the 60* it put 3 small slices in my SrixonZ. I hit it a few more times without any marks (maybe not as clean strikes). Is this common?
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I've been thinking to buy some Volkey square groove wedges before they disappear but I played with a buddys last week and on a full well struck shot w/ the 60* it put 3 small slices in my SrixonZ. I hit it a few more times without any marks (maybe not as clean strikes). Is this common?

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Maybe that's why I have such little use for the Top Flite Gamers - in spite of the new improved V2 - in this day and age, a ball should last a couple rounds, not just a couple holes.

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The chart shows that high spin balls launch lower, but ehy is that? Because they are softer? I wouldn't think that the spin rate itself made any significant impact on the initial launch angle, coming straight off the club face. Softness, how the ball is compressed and how long it stays on the club face may dictate something.

Some balls are set to launch high since they don't have much spin. (sirixon AD333)

Wait, were the balls all struck with the same club, or was the launch angle

manually adjusted for each ball?

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No, different balls have different launch angles. Softer cover will launch lower than a harder cover, the compression of the ball affects it, over all design.

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Hmmm. The Gamer V2 is quoted as 3556 in the table and yet shown as, what would be, about 5000 on the graph. Which is correct?? I assume the graphical....

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No, different balls have different launch angles. Softer cover will launch lower than a harder cover, the compression of the ball affects it, over all design.

Got it. Thanks.

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