LIV Golf (Saudi PIF), "Mergers," and More

[ChetlovesMer]

3 hours ago, saevel25 said:

Closure only comes to people who decide to not be affected by a past event anymore. It has very little to do with revenge, justice, etc... Many people who see a killer put to death, still do not feel closure, because they still have to go back home to a place where their loved one is not around anymore. 

I couldn't agree more. 

It sucks because carrying around the anger is harder on me than it will ever be on them. 

3 hours ago, GolfLug said:

Sure. We are not there yet though. Peace making/forgiveness requires fundamental corrections to build on.

You're correct. It sucks 

3 hours ago, GolfLug said:

Chet, in general, yes, I agree with you but what has social media tried to make us believe (Saudis? LIV? or something else related to this) that you think we should question here?          

I'm not sure I meant it as social media is trying to make us believe something. To me it just feels like so much of the world is so sure of their position. So dug in. I don't know if I'm sure of my position anymore. 

Maybe I'm just tired of carrying around all my anger?

But if I let go of my anger am I disrespecting the friends I lost? I don't know. As I said, the only thing I do know is that carrying around the anger is much harder on me than it is on the people who perpetrated the events. 

I want closure. But as @saevel25 said, closure only comes to those who decide not to be affected by the past anymore. I can't seem to get there. 

[GolfLug]

3 hours ago, ChetlovesMer said:

I couldn't agree more. 

It sucks because carrying around the anger is harder on me than it will ever be on them. 

You're correct. It sucks 

I'm not sure I meant it as social media is trying to make us believe something. To me it just feels like so much of the world is so sure of their position. So dug in. I don't know if I'm sure of my position anymore. 

Maybe I'm just tired of carrying around all my anger?

But if I let go of my anger am I disrespecting the friends I lost? I don't know. As I said, the only thing I do know is that carrying around the anger is much harder on me than it is on the people who perpetrated the events. 

I want closure. But as @saevel25 said, closure only comes to those who decide not to be affected by the past anymore. I can't seem to get there. 

No, no anger necessary. But it would be disrespectful if you would get chummy with your best friend's cheating ex, wouldn't it?

[snapfade]

This brought me out of the woodwork.

LIV Signs Rick Shiels As Ambassador | MyGolfSpy

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For the past two weeks, Rick Shiels had been teasing an important announcement. Most followers of the YouTube content creator weren't exactly thrilled

 

[iacas]

14 minutes ago, snapfade said:

This brought me out of the woodwork.

LIV Signs Rick Shiels As Ambassador | MyGolfSpy

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For the past two weeks, Rick Shiels had been teasing an important announcement. Most followers of the YouTube content creator weren't exactly thrilled

Why?

He’s been bought and paid for for years now.

[snapfade]

25 minutes ago, iacas said:

Why?

He’s been bought and paid for for years now.

I haven't really paid attention to him in a good while and saw the article and thought it was "interesting" for lack of a better word.  

[JetFan1983]

5 minutes ago, snapfade said:

I haven't really paid attention to him in a good while and saw the article and thought it was "interesting" for lack of a better word.  

I run an extension to estimate dislikes on YouTube videos. Nice ratio for Rick!

[ChetlovesMer]

6 hours ago, snapfade said:

This brought me out of the woodwork.

LIV Signs Rick Shiels As Ambassador | MyGolfSpy

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For the past two weeks, Rick Shiels had been teasing an important announcement. Most followers of the YouTube content creator weren't exactly thrilled

 

This whole thing is pretty fascinating. You have MyGolfSpy, which isn't as good as it used to be, telling us how PGA Tour Golf television coverage isn't as good as it used to be. Then going on to tell us that's why LIV signed Rick Shiels, who isn't as good as he use to be, to back LIV Golf which IMO has never been particularly good. 

[Markrobert]

25 minutes ago, ChetlovesMer said:

This whole thing is pretty fascinating. You have MyGolfSpy, which isn't as good as it used to be, telling us how PGA Tour Golf television coverage isn't as good as it used to be. Then going on to tell us that's why LIV signed Rick Shiels, who isn't as good as he use to be, to back LIV Golf which IMO has never been particularly good. 

Yeah, it’s like everyone’s past their prime, calling out others for falling off. MyGolfSpy isn’t what it was, PGA coverage has issues, Rick Shiels isn’t at his peak, and LIV still isn’t hitting like they want. Just a weird cycle of "was better before."

[dennyjones]

 

 

[Markrobert]

2 hours ago, dennyjones said:

 

 

This one brings back memories

[Moxley]

Big news, US Open offers exemptions to top LIV players, golf is coming back together again 👍

[iacas]

4 hours ago, Moxley said:

Big news, US Open offers exemptions to top LIV players, golf is coming back together again 👍

No, that's not accurate. Read the exemption:

For the 2025 U.S. Open at Oakmont on June 12-15, a full exemption will be awarded to the top player who is not otherwise exempt and in the top 3 of the 2025 LIV Golf standings as of May 19, 2025.

So:

• it's ONE player
• that player has to be in the top three

If your top three are Jon Rahm, Bryson, and Brooks… the exemption will go to… no one. At most, it will go to one player.

[elementz]

Great news...hopefully this will be a sign of things to come.    Chamblee is probably losing his shit.

[saevel25]

On 2/3/2025 at 9:52 PM, snapfade said:

This brought me out of the woodwork.

LIV Signs Rick Shiels As Ambassador | MyGolfSpy

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For the past two weeks, Rick Shiels had been teasing an important announcement. Most followers of the YouTube content creator weren't exactly thrilled

 

Yea, it seems Rick cares more about his brand and money than morality in this case. 

I have stopped watching his videos years ago. 

 

 

[ChetlovesMer]

5 hours ago, saevel25 said:

I have stopped watching his videos years ago. 

I did too. I just thought he started to get pretty awful. What really bothered me was that he would say stuff that simply wasn't true and then his fans would go around with "Rick Shiels said blah blah blah...." I found it annoying and kind of irresponsible. 

[iacas]

[RickK]

1 hour ago, iacas said:

Yep, I just heard this on the news.  Very interesting indeed.  Will be interesting following along with what transpires now. 

[iacas]

New report unveils 'staggering' losses for LIV Golf

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LIV Golf’s UK arm, which manages all of LIV’s operations outside of the U.S., filed its 2023 financials this week.

The Saudi Arabia Public Investment Fund's investment in LIV Golf could approach $5 billion by the end of this year based on financials reported by LIV Golf’s UK arm (and excluding its U.S. business).

LIV Golf’s financials were put under the microscope by Money in Sport, a newsletter following the money that is published on Substack. 

LIV Golf’s UK arm, which manages all of LIV’s operations outside of the U.S., filed its 2023 financials this week. 

Among the notable figures: 

Revenues picked up in 2023 from $4.9 million to $37.1 million, with Australia providing 45 percent of the annual total ($16.6 million) based on the LIV Adelaide tournament. 

Tournament hosting fees made up 37 percent of revenues, the largest category of income. Broadcast rights income amounted to only $3 million (8 percent of total revenue).