How to Improve as a Senior (60+)

[Rippy_72]

1 hour ago, JuliWooli said:

Yeah, but fun to be around. He loves the way the game used to be played when men were men and daughters shouldn't be able to beat their fathers.

Does he still wear lederhosen?  I remember working in Germany in the 80's when the mood was women were assigned "Kinder, Kuchen, Kirchen".....

[JuliWooli]

1 hour ago, Rippy_72 said:

Call me a wanker then.  🙂 

James, you're such a wanker!

1 hour ago, Rippy_72 said:

Does he still wear lederhosen?  I remember working in Germany in the 80's when the mood was women were assigned "Kinder, Kuchen, Kirchen".....

Of course he wears his Leathers and its "Kinder, Küche, Kirche" Children, Kitchen, Church. Woher in der Mutterland hast du gewohnt?

[Rippy_72]

24 minutes ago, JuliWooli said:

Of course he wears his Leathers and its "Kinder, Küche, Kirche" Children, Kitchen, Church. Woher in der Mutterland hast du gewohnt?

Erlangen.  Siemens arbeiter.

[Shorty]

2 hours ago, JuliWooli said:

Wow! I'm impressed. That about sums it all up perfectly. Thank you.

You can be as dismissive and passive aggressive as you like.

You came here looking for advice yet the person you want it for does not want it and by your own admission would scoff at it.

I am still wondering why, with a handicap difference of less than 2, you think that you can't play competitively with him.

Also, we are supposed to be saddened at the fact that the poor chap last won a senior championship in the dim dark past of 2018?

My heart bleeds for someone whose "swing is free flowing and he can still get round easily to his present handicap." of 5

What on earth are you actually searching for.

Edited February 20, 2021 by Shorty

[Rippy_72]

6 minutes ago, Shorty said:

You can be as dismissive and passive aggressive as you like.

 

 Germans are different than Americans.  I would not say she is dismissive or passive aggressive.  She is probably a very smart, type A person, and I would guess a German or at least schooled there..  

Edited February 20, 2021 by Rippy_72
typo brainfart

[JuliWooli]

1 hour ago, Shorty said:

You came here looking for advice yet the person you want it for does not want it and by your own admission would scoff at it.

 

You're repeating yourself!

1 hour ago, Rippy_72 said:

 Germans are different than Americans.  I would not say she is dismissive or passive aggressive.  She is probably a very smart, type A person, and I would guess a German or at least schooled there..  

I agree with Rippy!

I found a good workout that I can do with my grumpy old man. I'll keep you all posted.

Good night.

 

[JuliWooli]

1 hour ago, Rippy_72 said:

Erlangen.  Siemens arbeiter.

I know it but only ever passed through. Siemens ist Erlangen.

Hast du Google Übersetzer benützt oder kannst du noch Deutsch reden?

[StuM]

@JuliWooli IMO a lot of what you mention boils down to you, your dad or possibly both are not ready to accept aging and change.  If he is not happy he needs to make changes. And as good as his knowledge may be it is possible he does not have the knowledge to adjust for a physical limitation such as the shoulder cuff issue or other changes as we get older.

I think you need to understand things change and none of us are the person we were when younger, and your father is not alone in this.  Once he accepts that change is happening and is ready to accept help then maybe both of you can accept some of the many suggestions offered in this thread,

Until then, just golf with him and make it as fun as possible and do not worry about competition.  Just enjoy your time with him.

 

[JuliWooli]

7 hours ago, StuM said:

Until then, just golf with him and make it as fun as possible and do not worry about competition.  Just enjoy your time with him.

Once again,

thank you sincerely to everyone (except Shorty) who have taken part in this conversation. I/we have benefited from your comments (except for Shorty's) and will take note of quite a few things that were mentioned.

I love playing with my Dad and I/he does know that he is a little feisty and set in his ways. Ageing is a process that he is completely aware of and adopting a better diet and practising stretching exercises as advised on this thread can only help. His rotary cuff injury has existed for over 30 years and after only one stretching session, with me, he is experiencing more flexibility. We will be keeping that up.

We spent an hour last night putting on the carpet and another hour this morning. (Whipped his ass) but he thoroughly enjoyed it. Two simple changes to his routine look like setting him and me on the right path for the coming season.

You never know I might just manage to get him to use those lessons that I gifted him. (I doubt it but who knows)

As for equipment... No chance! Although he claims that theme has been well studied and examined. He has changed to softer shafts and more forgiving clubs.

This forum is like a self-support group and I feel better and very grateful that I took part.

Thanks again.

[JuliWooli]

15 hours ago, Shorty said:

You can be as dismissive and passive aggressive as you like.

You came here looking for advice yet the person you want it for does not want it and by your own admission would scoff at it.

I am still wondering why, with a handicap difference of less than 2, you think that you can't play competitively with him.

Also, we are supposed to be saddened at the fact that the poor chap last won a senior championship in the dim dark past of 2018?

My heart bleeds for someone whose "swing is free flowing and he can still get round easily to his present handicap." of 5

What on earth are you actually searching for.

"I bet you're a glass half empty type of guy."

 

"The wretch, concerted all in self,

living, shall forfeit fair renown,

and doubly dying shall go down

to the vile depths from whence he sprung

Unwept, unhonoured and unsung."

 

"When 'Shorty' saw the long winter, he saw a winter bleak and dark and bereft of hope. Yet we know that winter is just another step in the cycle of life. But standing here among the people of the Sand Trap and basking in the warmth of their hearths and hearts, I couldn't imagine a better fate than a long and lustrous winter."

Name the Film? You're not allowed to google the quotes!

Need more clues?

[dennyjones]

5 minutes ago, JuliWooli said:

"When 'Shorty' saw the long winter, he saw a winter bleak and dark and bereft of hope. Yet we know that winter is just another step in the cycle of life. But standing here among the people of the Sand Trap and basking in the warmth of their hearths and hearts, I couldn't imagine a better fate than a long and lustrous winter."

Name the Film? You're not allowed to google the quotes!

Need more clues?

It was the date of my 41st anniversary!

Edited February 21, 2021 by dennyjones

[Vinsk]

20 minutes ago, JuliWooli said:

Yet we know that winter is just another step in the cycle of life.

No. I live in Florida.😃

[Double Mocha Man]

2 hours ago, JuliWooli said:

Name the Film? You're not allowed to google the quotes!

"Get Shorty" 

[SEMI_Duffer]

23 hours ago, JuliWooli said:

Sorry Rippy. If you knew my dad you'd understand. He hates all that stuff. Things like...

Look at these wankers with their rangefinders, shaft tweaking and a bag full of expensive clubs that some salesman told them would make them better. Technique is his thing and he has nothing against a little exercise.

Oh my.

FWIW (which is probably not much because I'm both a wanker [aka: "equipment ho"] and a new golfer as of last season): Yes: Skill (technique, what-have-you) is paramount.  This is why I'm investing in hours and hours of off-season training before buying any more new gear.  But when you're talking shaving 2-3 strokes off a handicap, everything I've heard and read says equipment can make a difference.

I just turned 70.  Arthritis has been knocking at the door for several years.  Nonetheless, I've flexibility at which some guys half my age have marveled.  This is no doubt in part due to regular (3-5/week) strength training, cardio, and stretching sessions for the last sixteen years, almost without fail.

So, for what little it may be worth: Were I your dad I would first work on seeing how much strength and flexibility I could regain through strength training and a stretching regimen, then, when I feel I've done as much as I can in that respect, get a professional fitting.

A good, comprehensive book on stretching is Stretch and Strengthen, by Judy Alter.  It may be available in German.  It's available in Dutch as Strek Je Fit.

For strength training it would probably be best to consult with a physical trainer, given your dad's physical issues.

I wish you and your dad all the best.

[JuliWooli]

30 minutes ago, Double Mocha Man said:

"Get Shorty" 

Best answer possible but unfortunately WRONG!

30 minutes ago, SEMI_Duffer said:

I wish you and your dad all the best.

Thx Duffer,

I will definitely be checking out that book. English is fine.

37 minutes ago, Double Mocha Man said:

"Get Shorty" 

I'm still laughing...

 

[Billy Z]

I'm not sure exactly the op's real intentions are, but if I were asking advice for the sake of my father I would use the term father, dad, but not 'old man'. Also, when competing with him I probably think the better terminology would be I beat him, or won the match, not whipped his ass. Sorry to be so critical, but I think there are more appropriate ways to discuss a subject. Sometimes we all say things in ways that are not the best, but this is just my opinion. Also, I wish my handicap were 5 instead of 14 !

[Double Mocha Man]

5 minutes ago, Billy Z said:

I'm not sure exactly the op's real intentions are, but if I were asking advice for the sake of my father I would use the term father, dad, but not 'old man'. Also, when competing with him I probably think the better terminology would be I beat him, or won the match, not whipped his ass.

I would think between father and daughter, in this case, those are terms of endearment.💕

[Billy Z]

43 minutes ago, Double Mocha Man said:

I would think between father and daughter, in this case, those are terms of endearment.💕

Ok, good enough. I didn't mean to stir up the pot, it just that it was a bit different then I would have gone.