Jon Rahm Forced to WD From Memorial Tournament After a Positive COVID-19 Test

[DaveP043]

18 minutes ago, David in FL said:

 

Thanks.

We know that someone vaccinated can still contract and pass along the virus.  I wonder why they would only choose to apply that protocol to one group, but not another.  
 

Based on what I've read, they're largely following the CDC recommendations, and have adapted their policies as the CDC has adapted.  In round numbers, a non-vaccinated person is about 20 times as likely to be contagious (based on 95% efficacy, discounting other factors) as someone who has been vaccinated.  Nothing is totally risk-free, but at some point the risks are "low enough".  Much like the suggestions that vaccinated people don't need to wear masks in most public settings, while masks are still recommended for non-vaccinated people.

[southtampacane]

18 hours ago, Shorty said:

Thank heavens the world doesn't have folks like you in charge. How the hell can someone be so ignorant?

They didn't "kick out a guy with a 6 shot lead".

They followed protocol they all had agreed to and withdrew him. And, BTW, he had chosen not to get vaccinated for the last 6 months or so. His responsibility.

You say "IMO he is perfectly healthy". Thank goodness you don't get to judge. I'm guessing you're not a respiratory specialist or an immunologist.

As for the people in 2nd place - what a great idea. Let the people who were coming 4th and 5th fight it out for the win. Smart idea.

Thank you for saving me the trouble.   I can't believe after 17 months we still have to keep re-litigating the severity of the virus.  I know 3 people near my age that died in less than three weeks each time.  It's painful that some people don't get it.

Personally, I think Rahm should not have started the tournament.  He finds out on Monday he was in close contact with someone who got the virus and like a textbook case it takes 5 days to show up in a test.  In the meantime, he may (hopefully not) have gotten many others sick who came in his presence during that period.

Cantlay and Scheffler also deserve a SMH due to their own comments.  They think b/c they had the virus they didn't need to get the vaccine.  It's also settled science that the vaccine (both doses) gives a much more robust antibody response that lasts longer.  

[southtampacane]

6 hours ago, jxdama said:

How  is  he  going to infect someone  if  he  plays  by  himself? And lets  be  honest  here. 600k isnt a  legitimate  number. Died with and  of are  2 totally  different things. And again, we  have actual track history to go by. No pro golfer  has died from corona not even the  oldest and fattest.

You are right about one thing.  The 600K is a low #.  By a big amount.  Anyone who thinks it is overstated (the Jack Nicklaus crowd apparently) also doesn't understand how this works.   Someone may have a preexisting condition and die after getting the virus.  Your side seems to think that isn't a Covid death, while the rest of us know that but for Covid, that person would still be alive.

[DaveP043]

29 minutes ago, southtampacane said:

Your side seems to think that isn't a Covid death, while the rest of us know that but for Covid, that person would still be alive.

Welcome to TheSandTrap, its nice to see you jumping right in.  But a word of caution, please don't make this about choosing sides.  Yes, we're going to differ on many issues, but please keep the conversations respectful.  COVID is a particularly difficult issue, as it can involve political aspects (talk politics elsewhere, not on this forum), and of course has had life and death impacts for many of us.  

[Missouri Swede]

1 hour ago, Elmer said:

Your argument is predicated on the assumption that those in the lead always win.
 

Yeah, just like Lexi this weekend in the  ... uh, oh, never mind.

[Elmer]

3 minutes ago, Missouri Swede said:

Yeah, just like Lexi this weekend in the  ... uh, oh, never mind.

That is right, because those in the lead never collapse!
And speaking of Lexi, why did her agent cut her off, I thought it was "part of the job" for an athlete to speak to the press?

[Vinsk]

You guys are missing the point. Of course Rham could’ve collapsed, although he could’ve shot 76 and still won. If you don’t think Cantlay and Morikawa had a better chance to win removing Rham with a six shot lead then I don’t know what to tell ya. 

[boogielicious]

Just now, Vinsk said:

You guys are missing the point. Of course Rham could’ve collapsed, although he could’ve shot 76 and still won. If you don’t think Cantlay and Morikawa had a better chance to win removing Rham with a six shot lead then I don’t know what to tell ya. 

Is autocorrect changing it from Rahm to Rham? He had a really good chance,  it it’s mute now.

[iacas]

2 hours ago, David in FL said:

We know…

What you actually “know” about this is probably very small.

9 minutes ago, Vinsk said:

You guys are missing the point. Of course Rham could’ve collapsed, although he could’ve shot 76 and still won. If you don’t think Cantlay and Morikawa had a better chance to win removing Rham with a six shot lead then I don’t know what to tell ya. 

The fact remains he wasn’t guaranteed a win. At all.

[Vinsk]

34 minutes ago, iacas said:

The fact remains he wasn’t guaranteed a win. At all.

Never said that. But the fact remains Cantlay didn’t have to overcome a six shot lead. You guys are really being ridiculous. Start a tournament even or +6…who has a better chance to win? FFS.

[ChetlovesMer]

8 hours ago, DaveP043 said:

The PGA Tour Covid Policy applies to each and every player, including Mr. Rahm.  A player who tests positive after the first round is required to withdraw.  A player who barely makes the cut and then tests positive must withdraw.  And the leader of the tournament must withdraw if he tests positive.  You can't bend the rules for one guy and not for all the others.

Yeah, I can't believe we are even discussing this. There's a rule. It's clearly written. It was followed. 

It sucks for Jon Rahm. 

Lots of football players had to sit out games. It sucks for them too. I don't think anyone likes the Corona Virus. It sucks. 

My neighbor died. That sucks... Actually that sucks more than having to sit out a football game or getting WD'd out of a tournament. Let's face it. The Corona Virus sucks! 

[iacas]

18 minutes ago, Vinsk said:

You guys are really being ridiculous.

Ha ha ha ha. Yeah, it's US that's being ridiculous.

The win doesn't warrant an asterisk. Whether you want to say he was DQed or forced to withdraw, those are the rules. Had he signed for a lower score, he'd have been DQed, and you wouldn't be on here talking about how ridiculous it was, would you?

Cuz if you were, you'd be just as wrong about that as you are about this. 😄

[Vinsk]

Patrick Cantlay Feels Terrible About Stealing $1.67 Million From Jon Rahm at the Memorial: 'It Is a Very Unfortunate Situation'

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See what Patrick Cantlay had to say after winning the Memorial Tournament following Jon Rahm's...

Article mentions ‘asterisk riddled victory’. Lol. Patrick gets it.

[iacas]

2 minutes ago, Vinsk said:

Patrick Cantlay Feels Terrible About Stealing $1.67 Million From Jon Rahm at the Memorial: 'It Is a Very Unfortunate Situation'

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See what Patrick Cantlay had to say after winning the Memorial Tournament following Jon Rahm's...

Article mentions ‘asterisk riddled victory’. Lol. Patrick gets it.

No, he may agree with you. Doesn't mean he "gets it."

And the word asterisk appears once, and it's not uttered by Cantlay.

[David in FL]

1 hour ago, ChetlovesMer said:

Yeah, I can't believe we are even discussing this. There's a rule. It's clearly written. It was followed. 

It sucks for Jon Rahm. 

I agree 100%.

However,

I do wonder if anybody will question the disparity in the tracking/testing protocol between those who are vaccinated and those who are not.  

Rahm was completely asymptomatic.  The only reason he was discovered to be positive for Covid was because he was subject to daily testing when others were not.  It’s possible that a vaccinated player could have also been infected and asymptomatic and allowed to play only because he wasn’t subject to the same testing requirements.

To be clear, I have no issue with testing or the requirement to withdraw if positive.  I just wonder if any lawyers will be chatting to Jon in the coming days.

 

[iacas]

10 minutes ago, David in FL said:

I do wonder if anybody will question the disparity in the tracking/testing protocol between those who are vaccinated and those who are not.

🤦‍♂️

[phillyk]

15 minutes ago, David in FL said:

I agree 100%.

However,

I do wonder if anybody will question the disparity in the tracking/testing protocol between those who are vaccinated and those who are not.  

Rahm was completely asymptomatic.  The only reason he was discovered to be positive for Covid was because he was subject to daily testing when others were not.  It’s possible that a vaccinated player could have also been infected and asymptomatic and allowed to play only because he wasn’t subject to the same testing requirements.

To be clear, I have no issue with testing or the requirement to withdraw if positive.  I just wonder if any lawyers will be chatting to Jon in the coming days.

 

The whole reason behind golf starting when it did (and way before other sports) was adhering to CDC/federal guidelines.  The tour and players all agreed to it.  Doesn’t matter how anyone feels.  There are protocols in place that must be abided by in order to play.  Jon had his chance to opt out of playing this week, and vaccinate 3 weeks prior. 

Also, I don’t think you quite understand what it means to be vaccinated.  Bringing in lawyers is laughable.

[Vinsk]

22 minutes ago, David in FL said:

I agree 100%.

However,

I do wonder if anybody will question the disparity in the tracking/testing protocol between those who are vaccinated and those who are not.  

Rahm was completely asymptomatic.  The only reason he was discovered to be positive for Covid was because he was subject to daily testing when others were not.  It’s possible that a vaccinated player could have also been infected and asymptomatic and allowed to play only because he wasn’t subject to the same testing requirements.

To be clear, I have no issue with testing or the requirement to withdraw if positive.  I just wonder if any lawyers will be chatting to Jon in the coming days.

 

David. Rahm was specifically tested every day and restricted from indoor areas because he had a confirmed contact with someone positive. And again….a vaccinated person is much, much less likely to get the disease and even less likely to pass it. This isn’t that difficult. You seem to think that a ‘possibility’ of getting Covid when vaccinated indicates failure on behalf of them. It does not.