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Police chief of my town is my father in law. Hard not to talk to him, great guy. I actually have gotten really good information from him. But yeah I’ve heard that said before, a couple years ago. 

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I couldn't help but notice both those gentlemen are good speakers. That was informative and easy to listen to. 

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55 minutes ago, Golfingdad said:

That was good info.  Here’s a slightly shorter version of the same thing if anybody was too lazy to watch it all…

Thanks, yeah I'm way too lazy to watch 46 minutes of talk about the 5th amendment and Miranda Rights.  🤣 It always amazes me how many people don't know about this very basic stuff though. 

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26 minutes ago, cipher said:

Thanks, yeah I'm way too lazy to watch 46 minutes of talk about the 5th amendment and Miranda Rights.  🤣 It always amazes me how many people don't know about this very basic stuff though. 

I don't know that it's that they don't know about it.

I think it's that they think "if I didn't do anything wrong I want to be helpful."

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1 minute ago, iacas said:

I don't know that it's that they don't know about it.

I think it's that they think "if I didn't do anything wrong I want to be helpful."

Exactly. I used to train the employees at my company about how to respond during an FDA audit. It is very similar approach in that you only need to provide answers to the specific question and nothing else. If you don’t know the answer, say “I don’t know” and that’s it. People want to be helpful, but instead only cause more issues when they speak freely. 

In this case with police, you only need to provide identification but are not required by law to say anything else without council regardless of what the investigation is about. Even if they ask you for a witness statement, you can still have council present.

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1 hour ago, iacas said:

I don't know that it's that they don't know about it.

I think it's that they think "if I didn't do anything wrong I want to be helpful."

I can see that being the case. 

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9 hours ago, cipher said:

Thanks, yeah I'm way too lazy to watch 46 minutes of talk about the 5th amendment and Miranda Rights.  🤣 It always amazes me how many people don't know about this very basic stuff though. 

From the main video, my favorite part was when he pointed out the unwritten but obviously inferred part of the Miranda warning that somehow I’d never considered in all my previous 48 years here.

”Anything you say can and will be used AGAINST you …”

… but it will never ever be used FOR you.  
 

It’s so basic and simple but just never thought about it.

Like the cop said; people don’t like silence, and they like to tell their story.

 

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On 11/23/2021 at 7:35 PM, phillyk said:

Police chief of my town is my father in law. Hard not to talk to him, great guy. I actually have gotten really good information from him. But yeah I’ve heard that said before, a couple years ago. 

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This sure is a varied opinionated topic.    From the original video it seems as if people are too quick to talk and give incriminating information.   I'm a believer that the less shared the better. 

 

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Close personal friend is a Defense Attorney with 20+ years experience, and we've had this conversation several times. His advice pretty much aligns completely with the video. We talked one time about what to do if you shoot an intruder in your house:

  1. Call the police
  2. Call him
  3. Shut the hell up

The police are not there to help you, even if you shoot a person wearing a hockey mask and carrying an ax in your living room the only thing you say to the police is, "I would like a lawyer present before I make a statement."

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15 minutes ago, NM Golf said:

Close personal friend is a Defense Attorney with 20+ years experience, and we've had this conversation several times. His advice pretty much aligns completely with the video. We talked one time about what to do if you shoot an intruder in your house:

  1. Call the police
  2. Call him
  3. Shut the hell up

The police are not there to help you, even if you shoot a person wearing a hockey mask and carrying an ax in your living room the only thing you say to the police is, "I would like a lawyer present before I make a statement."

What do you say when you do #1 to get them there?

(I'm not specifically asking about shooting an intruder, but the answer could be modified for a lot of similar situations.)

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Just now, iacas said:

What do you say when you do #1 to get them there?

Great question I just texted him and he said to say this, "There's been a shooting, please send the police". He also said to make sure NOT to say something like, "I just shot someone in my house". 

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