2025 PGA Championship at Quail Hollow

[boogielicious]

Apparently mud on the ball has been a perceived issue at Quail Hollow. Scottie Scheffler mentioned it in his post round. He and Xander hooked it in the water on one hole.

[dennyjones]

I watched the Golf Channel last night, and they showed the wet fairways.  Squishy! 

[iacas]

Reasonably dry by the afternoon/evening. Some players not seeing many or any mud balls. Maybe they should have hit their tee shots lower. 🙂 

Also, for as much as this was supposed to be a bomber's paradise… Luke Donald is T3. He'll turn 48 this year.

[Beastie]

Does Scheffler have a driver this week?? I’d almost forgotten he got arrested last year

[boogielicious]

Mickelson took four swings to get out of a green side bunker on 12. Yikes!

[turtleback]

6 hours ago, boogielicious said:

Mickelson took four swings to get out of a green side bunker on 12. Yikes!

Why is he copying my game?

[GolfLug]

On 5/15/2025 at 5:19 PM, boogielicious said:

Apparently mud on the ball has been a perceived issue at Quail Hollow. Scottie Scheffler mentioned it in his post round. He and Xander hooked it in the water on one hole.

New rule: Any and all mud on mud balls should be declared GUR 100% of times  No MLR needed. Hashtagproject2026..😜

I'm all about play it as it lies, but that's like being forced to swallow the accidental fly in your Old Fashioned..  

[saevel25]

Rory’s driver was found non conforming before the tournament.

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/pga-championship-2025-rory-mcilroy-driver

 

[scotth]

This many years later and still not used to the PGA in May and not August.  Maybe it is because we had snow here a week ago and by Sunday half the Majors will have been played. 

[turtleback]

Don't you reduce the likelihood of a mudball by flighting your drive lower?  I thought that was the case, and if so that's a skill and it shouldn't be diminished by giving relief, IMO.  Learn to hit the Tiger stinger.

[saevel25]

2 hours ago, turtleback said:

Don't you reduce the likelihood of a mudball by flighting your drive lower?  I thought that was the case, and if so that's a skill and it shouldn't be diminished by giving relief, IMO.  Learn to hit the Tiger stinger.

Maybe? 

Though could still be uncontrollable to a certain degree.

 

 

[pganapathy]

14 hours ago, turtleback said:

Don't you reduce the likelihood of a mudball by flighting your drive lower?  I thought that was the case, and if so that's a skill and it shouldn't be diminished by giving relief, IMO.  Learn to hit the Tiger stinger.

Definitely have less likelihood because the ball is less likely to plug but it will definitely get some mud on it.  Even if you roll it along the ground there is some mud that will eventually stick to the ball.

Which brings up a simple question.  Is mud-balls enough to prevent what looks like a coronation 18 hole round for Scottie Scheffler.

[iacas]

It’s three shots. He could lose it in one hole. Unlikely, but possible.

I am all for a coronation.

[boogielicious]

At one point Scottie had a 5 stroke lead. He’s not playing well.

[PatrickMurtha]

Proposition: Scottie Scheffler is just what golf never needed, a superstar and dominant player who has zero personality and is an utterly boring frat boy type. Brooks Koepka is a SMUG frat boy type, but at least you can hate him for that. Scottie is a glass of milk. Wholesome, but not much to get fired up about. Thank goodness for the arrest, at least that was a little exciting. 

I don’t think Scottie gains many fans for the game of golf, because he doesn’t INSPIRE passion any more than he seems to FEEL it. I am sure that he actually does have an intense inner competitive fire, he obviously wouldn’t win so much without one, but it simply doesn’t project outwards. He needs to start messing up before we can like him. 

Jordan and Rory and Justin and Keegan and others inspire passion in part because they make you suffer, they put you through the wringer. Bryson and Rahm have zip, they give great interviews. Koepka and Reed and Sergio are fun to trash and complain about. Admittedly Dustin Johnson is a little boring, but even he seems fun next to Scheffler. Scottie makes every single other male professional golfer look like Personality Plus. I suppose that is a benefit of a kind. 

I am not saying this is all the Final Truth; it is a Proposition. 

[PatrickMurtha]

An analogous situation is Mike Trout in baseball. Trout is an epochal talent, but he is simply not that famous outside the game of baseball, and he has never captured the imagination of the general public; they don’t have his contours clear in their collective mind. Somehow he lacks vividness, depth of impression. Comparing Trout to Mickey Mantle or Willie Mays is exactly like comparing Scottie to Tiger or Phil.

[boogielicious]

Wow, Rahmbo self destructed in spectacular fashion! Lost 5 strokes in the final three holes. He was looking good for a while too. BD played sketchy down the stretch too, which makes me happy. Scottie rallied on the back 9. 

[Brock]

19 minutes ago, boogielicious said:

Wow, Rahmbo self destructed in spectacular fashion! Lost 5 strokes in the final three holes. He was looking good for a while too. BD played sketchy down the stretch too, which makes me happy. Scottie rallied on the back 9. 

Never could really grasp how people find happiness watching other people “fail” seems really weird.