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  1. 1. Tiger or Jack: Who's the greatest golfer?

    • Tiger Woods is the man
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    • Jack Nicklaus is my favorite
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For some reason, you have missed hundreds of posts that do accept that.  I've often said I can't even prove that Tiger would beat Vardon head to head, although I'd bet on him. What I CAN prove is

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Here ya go, right our of Jack's 1996 autobiography.  He is giving the third of his three reasons (equipment and fitness being the other) for the decline of the superstar in golf (re

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That's very unfair to Jack, since he played events well into his 60's.  It also distorts Tiger's record, since he played injured for several years. It would be more fair to look at the the period

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Tiger.  No question.

 

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Insane.

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This is old, but I forgot about this. He beat the field, average score, 89 consecutive rounds. That stretch was like MJ during his prime. What is he gonna do next? It was just amazeballs after amazeballs.

 

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BTW… since 14 > 18, 15 >> 18.

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No news here, still Tiger same as always. 😜

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16 minutes ago, iacas said:

BTW… since 14 > 18, 15 >> 18.

Obviously Tiger is the best to ever play. Greatest? Not yet. maybe 1 more major and 9 more top tens and quality of competition argument becomes relevant. 16 vs 18 and 50 vs 73 is getting close.  As it is right now Jack has almost as many top 2s as Tiger has top tens and Jack was in the process of having Watson and Hal Sutton rip majors from him at the same age Tiger is.

 

Top tens 

1. Jack -73

2. Watson - 46

Tiger-41

Hogan 39

Arnold- 38

Mickelson- 38

Ernie 35

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Fidelio said:

Top tens 

1. Jack -73

It's easy to rack up top tens when you only have to beat about twelve people to get it.

Oh, and 81 > 73.

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2 minutes ago, Fidelio said:

Obviously Tiger is the best to ever play. Greatest? Not yet. maybe 1 more major and 9 more top tens and quality of competition argument becomes relevant. 16 vs 18 and 50 vs 73 is getting close.  As it is right now Jack has almost as many top 2s as Tiger has top tens and Jack was in the process of having Watson and Hal Sutton rip majors from him at the same age Tiger is.

 

Top tens 

1. Jack -73

2. Watson - 46

Tiger-41

Hogan 39

Arnold- 38

Mickelson- 38

Ernie 35

 

 

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1 minute ago, iacas said:

It's easy to rack up top tens when you only have to beat about twelve people to get it.

Why didn't Hogan, Snead, Nelson, or anyone else do it? Why didn't Tom Watson do it? Why didn't Seve or Faldo or Norman do it?

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Just now, Fidelio said:

Why didn't Hogan, Snead, Nelson, or anyone else do it? Why didn't Tom Watson do it? Why didn't Seve or Faldo or Norman do it?

Because Jack was better than them. He’s not better than Tiger. Simple.

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4 minutes ago, Fidelio said:

Obviously Tiger is the best to ever play. Greatest? Not yet. maybe 1 more major and 9 more top tens and quality of competition argument becomes relevant. 16 vs 18 and 50 vs 73 is getting close.  As it is right now Jack has almost as many top 2s as Tiger has top tens and Jack was in the process of having Watson and Hal Sutton rip majors from him at the same age Tiger is.

 

Top tens 

1. Jack -73

2. Watson - 46

Tiger-41

Hogan 39

Arnold- 38

Mickelson- 38

Ernie 35

Jack Nicklaus truly was great at losing.

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Just now, Fidelio said:

Why didn't Hogan, Snead, Nelson, or anyone else do it? Why didn't Tom Watson do it? Why didn't Seve or Faldo or Norman do it?

Because they weren't as good as Jack? But Tiger is better than Jack.

Because Hogan played in one British Open? Because Snead did similarly?

Incredibly weak counter-argument, man.

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Just now, Vinsk said:

Because Jack was better than them. He’s not better than Tiger. Simple.

But he is though. Jack has almost as many top 2s as Tiger has 10s.

You can say he faced super easy competition but why did Jack's peers compete so well against Tiger's peers. Did Raymond Floyd just get better at golf in his late 40s and early 50s? Did Tom Watson get better at 59?

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Tiger Woods is the greatest! Sure Jack Nicklaus has the majors but TW got the game alongside more PGAs.

Though kudos to Nicklaus for playing during the cold war!

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9 minutes ago, Fidelio said:

You can say he faced super easy competition but why did Jack's peers compete so well against Tiger's peers.

Overall, they didn't.

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13 minutes ago, iacas said:

Because they weren't as good as Jack? But Tiger is better than Jack.

Because Hogan played in one British Open? Because Snead did similarly?

Incredibly weak counter-argument, man.

Seems like a pretty devastating argument actually.  37 top 2s and 73 top 10s vs 41 top 10s. Tiger's tied 50ths and missed cuts  are not like finishing 4th (which was like a bad finish in Jack's 30s). And guys like Watson, Floyd, and Miller would have zero trouble adapting to the modern game. Trevino might not adjust as well but do guys like Spieth, Koepka, DJ rank in the same stratosphere as Lee? Not even close at this point.

I just came back to see how much Tiger humping there would be. It is interesting that I have heard Butch Harmon in three separate interviews saying Jack has the superior career. I actually even heard Hank Haney flip and go to Jack.  Not that this is great argument  but other people I have heard this past year: Faldo adamantly said Jack is the greatest, Jim Furyk on Dan Patrick's show, Tom Watson, Ernie Els, Luke Donald, Norman,   and I came across an interview with Jack pretty smugly saying his major career is vastly superior.

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