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Apparently her doctor is being accused (arrested?) of stealing evidence from the crime scene.

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Apparently he removed a note (possibly suicide note) and some perscription medications.

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I know of two cases of suicide where they had financial struggles from bad real estate investments, but the sad part about both these cases were that they both had two or more kids and in one case young kids. They must have been so depressed and despondent that they made up their minds that there was no other choice for themselves.

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ever see House of Sand and Fog? what a horrible way to go...

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I know of two cases of suicide where they had financial struggles from bad real estate investments, but the sad part about both these cases were that they both had two or more kids and in one case young kids. They must have been so depressed and despondent that they made up their minds that there was no other choice for themselves.

Suicide is the coward's way out - especially if you have a family. My mom worked with a guy who told his whole family to be at the house around 3pm because he wanted to share something important with them. He doesn't show up and a couple hours later they get a call from the police saying he stepped in front of a train - how screwed up is that?

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According to sources in a CBS report, a plastic garbage bag was found near her body. I'm not aware of any sources that said she used said bag to asphyxiate herself. I've been involved in my fair share of coroner's calls and death investigations over the years and while that manner of suicide is not unheard of, it's extremely uncommon. Considering that garbage bags were seized from Dr. Hess's home pursuant to a search warrant,

Wow, based on just what you've read in miscellaneous news reports you're able to discount the conclusion of numerous experienced paid professionals with direct access to all the evidence? Impressive....maybe millions and millions of tax dollars could be saved in the future by getting rid of the forensic analysts, detectivews, and coroner office and instead just give you a call after you've had a chance to watch TMZ and read a few press stories.


ever see House of Sand and Fog? what a horrible way to go...

When I heard that she committed suicide in that fashion I thought of that movie too. In 18 years of death investigations and coroner's calls, including plenty of suicides, I have yet to see anyone kill themself in this fashion.

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. . . the coward's way out . . .

Depression is a complex problem.

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I've had two old friends commit suicide. It will be very painful for the family and friends for a long time. My thoughts are with them.

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A decent, quirky guy in my major at Cal in the 80s was despondent over a breakup. He taped together a bunch or garbage bags, crawled in, taped it shut, filled it with nitrous oxide and killed himself. Sad.

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Depression is a complex problem.

Agreed. Dismissing it as "the coward's way out" is a rather ignorant way to trivialize a very serious and complicated problem.

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Agreed. Dismissing it as "the coward's way out" is a rather ignorant way to trivialize a very serious and complicated problem.

Amen. I've known quite a few people to commit suicide. Usually they had some mental problem. It's a complex issue, not something you can just trivialize.


Amen. I've known quite a few people to commit suicide. Usually they had some mental problem. It's a complex issue, not something you can just trivialize.

I'm sure we all have coworkers, classmates, friends, and relatives who have experienced different levels of depression. Some people will find a way to end their life no matter what interventions are attempted. For some others, they are going though a particularly rough patch in their life and with support they come out of it stronger and never struggle with depression again.

A really close friend of mine recently had the rug pulled out from under him as his marriage fell apart - overnight. He told me that for the first month or so (I was unaware of his situation at that point) every time he saw a truck drive past his job site, he pondered stepping in front of it. If it wasn't for his children growing up without a father, he said he'd likely be dead now. That was very hard to hear, but it was better to hear it from him rather than reading about it in the newspaper. My point is, depression can happen to anyone, and to know this person the last thing you'd ever call him is "a coward".

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I had a good friend kill himself over a girl that left him. Saddest shit in the world.

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Always tragic in any time, but particularly so when someone has a long life ahead of them. As others have pointed out, suicide isn't an act of cowardice. It isn't a decision than one arrives at after a logical evaluation of a problem or situation. It is not the result of rational thinking. Clinical depression has essentially nothing to do with the version of depression that all of us experience; it is a complex condition that combines biological, psychological, and social factors. The way it manifests itself in moods or behaviors that are similar to emotional moods felt by us all actually does a disservice in the treatment and understanding of the condition - we want to tell someone that it's not that bad so cheer up, or expect them to rationally sort through their feelings. It is almost unfortunate that the psychiatric community chose to name the condition this way and not come up with some long nasty-sounding latin term, as it leads to preventing everyone else not recognizing this for the serious disease that it is.

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