Rickie Fowler's Swing...

[nevets88]

  mvmac said:

Nice camera angle Golf Channel

Yeah arms loading more "in front" of him, right elbow a little further away from him at A4.

Is the Golf Channel camera too low? I might have had some influence, but I'm pretty sure I positioned the camera directly behind the tv in the middle.

[Dave2512]

Yeah heard him talking about working with BH last night. Pretty cool I hope it works out for him he's an easy guy to like.

[nevets88]

Face on - skip to 1 min for start of swing.

[mvmac]

  nevets88 said:

Is the Golf Channel camera too low? I might have had some influence, but I'm pretty sure I positioned the camera directly behind the tv in the middle.

Yeah way too low.  Makes it look like the club hinges faster, swing is longer and more narrow.

  nevets88 said:

Face on - skip to 1 min for start of swing.

Good look at the first 3 Keys

[nevets88]

I went a little loco w/my camera - here's a bunch of slow mo vids from La Quinta today:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcIepsGiAiWM6oqhXGSkNJVM8odGVQUO6

[Deryck Griffith]

Looks like Butch and Rickie are trying to reduce the amount of in to out path Rickie had.  While under pressure, he has on numerous occasions yanked shots to the left.  His old swing required lots of timing and flip hooks were definitely his miss.

The stills so far show a bit less of the in to out path.  He is in a nice position at the top right now but it's still early.  It will be interesting to see how the new swing develops throughout the year.  I still think his right foot on the downswing jumps off of the ground way too much causing the club to shallow out a ton.  It'll be nice to see him roll it towards his instep more rather than lift up on his toes so quickly (reminds me of Paul Casey).

[nevets88]

  mvmac said:

Yeah way too low.  Makes it look like the club hinges faster, swing is longer and more narrow.

Interesting.

Golf Channel does that angle to maximize ball flight view probably, which is cool when you see it on the par 3s, like the Fowler and Sneds hook. I guess the swing geek demographic isn't anywhere near that of the average viewer. The video I took was a wood though, no way to track that sucker, might as well get a better angle.

[Snowfly]

He missed the cut yesterday. I like the guy, I hope he turns it around.

[nevets88]

[MS256]

Yeah he said that the Ricky Fowler on the right has more spine angle and instead of hinging up the club with his wrists so soon he rotates his arms so when the club is parallel to the ground in the back swing the shaft is pointing down the toe line instead of pointing toward his mid section.

He said the club head doesn't get above the plane as soon in the back swing and the club is not laid off at the top just before the transition.

And I think he said the videos make the Ricky Fowler on the right look a lot heavier than the one on the left.

(Just joking). I have no clue what he said.

[hopefulhacker]

He lost me before, and after he said Butch Harmond.

[mvmac]

[Righty to Lefty]

  alo1984 said:

Quote:

Originally Posted by alo1984

Do you have any interest in rescinding that last comment?

I think that looks can be deceiving in that Freddie has impeccable timing and tempo but his injury history in my opinion tells the whole story.  If everything was effortless then he wouldn't have chronic back problems. His swing takes a much bigger toll on his body when is seen on video.

[freedrop]

  mvmac said:

I don't think I recall such a dramatic swing change after a pro has switched instructors.RF looks so much more natural with less contrived actions.This is going to be interesting.I hope RF has good year,he is a solid young man.

[cipher]

  freedrop said:

I don't think I recall such a dramatic swing change after a pro has switched instructors.RF looks so much more natural with less contrived actions.This is going to be interesting.I hope RF has good year,he is a solid young man.

I can't believe I am saying this but I agree, and I really like his new move.

[freedrop]

  cipher said:

I can't believe I am saying this but I agree, and I really like his new move.

cipher ...I cannot respect anyone who agrees with me....sorry.

[saevel25]

  cipher said:

I can't believe I am saying this but I agree, and I really like his new move.

I don't know I kinda liked his old swing. I can see the benefits of the new one. He still has that slight hand drop at the top (mini-loop). Yea, it looks really solid. He'll probably wont get going till summer though, get the distances and control grooved in.

[cipher]

  freedrop said:

cipher ...I cannot respect anyone who agrees with me....sorry.

Well, am pretty sure nobody else respects me either.   That is OK I don't need it, I just need to keep getting better like I am.

  saevel25 said:

I don't know I kinda liked his old swing. I can see the benefits of the new one. He still has that slight hand drop at the top (mini-loop). Yea, it looks really solid. He'll probably wont get going till summer though, get the distances and control grooved in.

I just like making things more simple, to me the move simplifies things.  At least with what I would have to think about.  For him, who knows, maybe it is actually a less natural move and he has to think about more feels.   I can see it taking a bit for him to start really grooving in the swing as well.