The Dan Plan - 10,000 Hours to Become a Pro Golfer (Dan McLaughlin)

[Runnin]

On 4/25/2011 at 5:53 AM, Lofty Lefty said:

 

I just hope he has a REALLY good chiropractor/physio.

This comment was dead on.

[GolfLug]

On 8/18/2017 at 11:42 AM, JetFan1983 said:

Dan's a ****ing moron. And there is no clearer evidence in regards to how stupid Dan is than in his concluding statements. "I just don't know what to write."

Really? You're THAT obtuse, dude? You know exactly what to write, but you can't bring yourself to do it.

Oh, the conclusion isn't some lame ass participation trophy but rather a bulging disc in your back that you're gonna have for life? It's those thirty pounds you clearly put on over the last few years because you can't exercise or be active like you used to because of what golf did to your lower spine? It's that you didn't even have a snowballs chance in hell? And now you can't publish that stupid ass book you were going to publish with you on the cover wearing a turtleneck looking like a genius who was gonna tell anyone willing to buy your book that everyone's dreams are attainable?

What. A. Dick. 

I realize that was harsh what I just said, but hey, he won't conclude it, so I guess that means it's up to "reader's interpretation" what the ending means lol. 

 

In that case you NEED the following:

1) Strength and durability: You need to just never get injured. You're already behind the 8-ball with time, and you cannot afford to not be playing and practicing six days a week. This is not negotiable. 

2) Genetic talent: You need to reach a realization about how to swing a golf club on the downswing sooner rather than later. That crap where you "can't shallow the downswing EVER?" Yea, you need to be able to bust through that phase in months, not years. Larry Nelson picked up golf at 21 and won three majors in the 1980s. YE Yang started playing golf at 19, but was a body builder at the time. There ARE anomalies that exist in this game.

They certainly exist, but you really need the physical tools in order to do it. You need strength, durability and a natural born ability to figure out how to hit a golf ball faster than the average person. If you start as a child, I think a wider range of people can pick up the game and one day master it. But once you reach adulthood, that genetic pool dries significantly, and only those left who can learn it are the truly talented ones who didn't have an adult in their life to introduce it to them as kids. And if they got the game as kids? Yang would probably have 2-3 more majors than he does now IMO. But I could be wrong on that. 

lol! Great post..

2 hours ago, mchepp said:

By not caring about golf like we do, I can see how he doesn't care about a conclusion. Because he didn't finish he cannot be seen by the academics as anything but an abandoned experiment. The part he was passionate about is gone. So there is no conclusion. And as I said long ago, there never will be. 

But that WAS the experiment right? That you can take anything without any innate talent, passion (or even respect, which I am not sure I agree - he picked golf because he knew how difficult it is) towards the subject matter and substitute ALL of it with a sincere 10,000 hours for a comparable achievement. In that sense there is conclusion. He didn't get there. 

But he DID get to a 6 at some point, IIRC (assuming it was honest). I say that is 90th percentile or better. That's pretty good for someone with no passion for the madness of this game or any other head starts afforded to most other 6s. 

Yet, there is no denying that in the end the mystery or mystique of Golf's X factor continues to prevail supreme. 

 

Edited September 20, 2017 by GolfLug

[iacas]

4 hours ago, nevets88 said:

I agree. Observer's paradox among other things.

Nick's gone about achieving his own goals in a totally dumb way. He listens to a ton of people, and sticks with one thing from one instructor for only a short period of time.

[nevets88]

14 minutes ago, iacas said:

Nick's gone about achieving his own goals in a totally dumb way. He listens to a ton of people, and sticks with one thing from one instructor for only a short period of time.

Like that YouTube guy, Be Better Golf I think.

[nevets88]

Hey, a post to his blog.

http://thedanplan.com/bouncing-back-a-return-to-australia/

[Vinsk]

2 hours ago, nevets88 said:

Hey, a post to his blog.

http://thedanplan.com/bouncing-back-a-return-to-australia/

Long overdue I'd say. 

[RandallT]

Wow, a post!

He mentions a return to SBS Insight. I found this YouTube clip:

 

Here's the video from the show's site, but I don't think I can watch it from the US. All I can find is that clip above. http://www.sbs.com.au/news/insight/tvepisode/bouncing-back

 

[bones75]

It's a disappointing end (w/ or w/o "closure"), but I've got no hate for Dan. Yea, even w/ the same final outcome he could have handled things better to the people following him. But really it never cost me anything and I was entertained when he was still at it (regardless of any issues w/ his approach to the project and/or how he portrayed it). He also made it easy to follow his story... I remember checking out his stats page every few months, and it was kinda fun to just see it.

I'd prob still give it a google if I heard he was trying for the Senior tour in the future.

[Lihu]

6 hours ago, bones75 said:

I'd prob still give it a google if I heard he was trying for the Senior tour in the future.

At least all that short game emphasis he gave the game won't go to waste against the worlds best short game players. That is, if he has the long game to compete at all.

Like you I don't really have any hate for Dan at this point. His swing in the latest video looks pretty decent too. Hope he can still continue to play. . .

[bones75]

3 hours ago, Lihu said:

His swing in the latest video looks pretty decent too. Hope he can still continue to play. . .

I'm just curious, cuz I'm not very good at identifying such things.  Was there a general consensus of what was wrong w/ Dan's swing previously?  I thought his hip whip looked painful, but honestly so do many of the young ballers I see on the course.

[Lihu]

Just now, bones75 said:

I'm just curious, cuz I'm not very good at identifying such things.  Was there a general consensus of what was wrong w/ Dan's swing previously?  I thought his hip whip looked painful, but honestly so do many of the young ballers I see on the course.

The general consensus was that it wasn't nearly fast enough to compete. Of course, I might be a little biased.

106 mph is not even fast enough to compete in the Champions Tour. That's the official "average", but Dan was 36 with that SS.

[bones75]

3 minutes ago, Lihu said:

The general consensus was that it wasn't nearly fast enough to compete. Of course, I might be a little biased.

106 mph is not even fast enough to compete in the Champions Tour. That's the official "average", but Dan was 36 with that SS.

I see.  I thought people were saying there was a glaring problem with his form, but never figured out exactly what it was.

[Lihu]

Just now, bones75 said:

I see.  I thought people were saying there was a glaring problem with his form, but never figured out exactly what it was.

For a guy who picked up golf in his 30s with about 6000 hours of practice and play, he plays really well. Just not well enough to think of competing even in club competitions much less the pros.

[nevets88]

1 minute ago, bones75 said:

I see.  I thought people were saying there was a glaring problem with his form, but never figured out exactly what it was.

Imho, not enough hip turn for one. Barely turns them.

[bones75]

1 minute ago, nevets88 said:

Imho, not enough hip turn for one. Barely turns them.

Interesting.  I think before I ever watched him swing I read a few comments saying things like "it's not surprising he hurt his back". Perhaps because I already had that in my mind, when I first saw the above, I thought I saw something that didn't look right w/ his hip firing, but couldn't put my finger on it.  It looked unnecessarily violent to me (but not from lack of turning), esp for his swing speed. Granted I am not good at analyzing swing mechanics.. everytime I see Spirnac my back also hurts a little.

[iacas]

[Lihu]

51 minutes ago, bones75 said:

Interesting.  I think before I ever watched him swing I read a few comments saying things like "it's not surprising he hurt his back". Perhaps because I already had that in my mind, when I first saw the above, I thought I saw something that didn't look right w/ his hip firing, but couldn't put my finger on it.  It looked unnecessarily violent to me (but not from lack of turning), esp for his swing speed. Granted I am not good at analyzing swing mechanics.. everytime I see Spirnac my back also hurts a little.

He does seem to turn his hips enough, but it just looks out of sequence. He might be trying to get more "X-factor" or something? Whatever it is, I totally agree that his sequence does look pretty violent and prone to injury. Hurts me to watch it too. . .and on top of that he's not generating that much SS.

[bones75]

16 minutes ago, iacas said:

Iacas is funny.  Yea that looks bad too.