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Golfingdad Incredible Member

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And where exactly did you find this out?

Look at Ball #7.  171.9 ball speed divided by 113.4 clubhead speed equals 1.51587.  (So, technically Colin was wrong :-P )  But I can't really talk much, seeing as how I don't know how to calculate temperature. :whistle:

What is the significance of the smash factor?

Just shows how solid the contact is.  If you're averaging 1.48 or 1.49 like Grant is, then you can rest assured that you are smacking the ball solidly and in the center of the face.

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Comments? Anything stick out?

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I learned that most of these guys would have a hard time keeping up with the typical Internet drive average.

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Yep. And the D-Plane people will like this... Rory's horizontal swing plane is 10 degrees out. But because he swings up 4 degrees on near to a 45 degree vertical swing plane, he's still hitting

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Look at Ball #7.  171.9 ball speed divided by 113.4 clubhead speed equals 1.51587.  (So, technically Colin was wrong )  But I can't really talk much, seeing as how I don't know how to calculate temperature.

Uhh, well I was talking about @colin007 saying he's lucky if he gets a smash factor of 1.43. I wanted to know where he found out his smash factor is at best 1.43.

Jeezis...1.515 smash??? That's insane. I'm lucky if I get 1.43...

Not doing very well lately, @Golfingdad . :-$

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colin007 Incredible Member

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@RFKFREAK , I've gotten my smash factor from the Golf Galaxy. I don't know if it's so bad because I suck or because they put masking tape all over the face, but usually I'm around 1.38.

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@RFKFREAK, I've gotten my smash factor from the Golf Galaxy. I don't know if it's so bad because I suck or because they put masking tape all over the face, but usually I'm around 1.38.

You're kidding me.

My smash factor when I went back in July ranged from 1.38-1.42 for an average of 1.40.

If I'm better than someone in anything golf related, do you know what that means?

It means you suck. :-$

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Golfingdad Incredible Member

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Uhh, well I was talking about @colin007 saying he's [COLOR=181818]lucky if he gets a smash factor of 1.43.  [/COLOR][COLOR=181818]I wanted to know where he found out his smash factor is at best 1.43.[/COLOR]   Not doing very well lately, @Golfingdad . :-$

Well in my defense, you didn't bold his portion of the quote originally.

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Well in my defense, you didn't bold his portion of the quote originally.

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Golfingdad Incredible Member

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So, you just assumed I I missed something instead of making a inquiry about something Colin shared about himself? :no: :whistle:

Please forgive me for trying to help.

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Please forgive me for trying to help.

I hope you realize I'm just messing with you. :)

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Lihu Incredible Member

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Golfingdad

Please forgive me for trying to help.

I hope you realize I'm just messing with you. :)


Don't worry, I stated something @Golfingdad over 2 years ago, and he still holds that grudge. :offtopic:

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I feel it's a combination of things:

- Their swings. Some tour pros are "handle draggers", so their AoA will tend to be down. Advice to feel like you "cover it" is more popular than sliding your hips and raising the handle.

- They don't know any different. They didn't grow up being taught to hit up, they don't play the ball far enough forward, they don't even know what their AoA is, they swing at 120 mph.

This is starting to change, I would say the average is closer to level than it was a couple years ago, lot more AoA "education".

For the most part it doesn't. Players that don't know how to hit up can get into a bad habit of tilting back in order to do it, that can cause control issues.

@iacas has pointed out that you can deform the golf ball more by hitting up.

http://thesandtrap.com/t/44307/hitting-up-or-down-with-the-driver-in-an-inline-pattern/54#post_816701

http://thesandtrap.com/t/44307/hitting-up-or-down-with-the-driver-in-an-inline-pattern/54#post_816750

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Does Smash Factor change based on whether you use range balls, average balls or premium balls?

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Does Smash Factor change based on whether you use range balls, average balls or premium balls?

Sure, Smash Factor is just Ball Speed divided by Club Head Speed.

Golf balls are not all the same. Some weight different, some might be more elastic. You probably wouldn't see a significant difference in smash factor. Most golf balls are made with in certain tolerances, so they perform with in a small difference that it is pretty insignificant.

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b101 Great Member

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Sure, Smash Factor is just Ball Speed divided by Club Head Speed.

Golf balls are not all the same. Some weight different, some might be more elastic. You probably wouldn't see a significant difference in smash factor. Most golf balls are made with in certain tolerances, so they perform with in a small difference that it is pretty insignificant.

Thanks - very useful :)

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The exception being a range ball that is specifically a limited flight ball.

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