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I'd be curious to see how it looks at A3 and 4 face-on.

Is it time to break out the Pipoe and start doing some pitch elbow drills again?

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Is it time to break out the Pipoe and start doing some pitch elbow drills again?

Honestly Drew I think it looks pretty good. Keep up the work with those feels. Wouldn't mind seeing even a little less "stretch" to A4. Only thing I'm not a fan of is the wrist alignments, would like to see less cup in the left wrist and more bend in the right wrist. I wouldn't worry about that for now though.

With your body type it's going to be very hard for you to go 100% pitch elbow. You still want to keep the elbow in front of the shirt seam and not flexing past 90 degrees but you're not going to be able to externally rotate the arm as much as other players. The work you've put in the past year or so to make sure the elbow doesn't slide behind has been important but I don't think you need to pitch it more.

Here's Jason Gore, player with a similar body type as yours. Note the position of his right elbow and the spacing between the elbows, also pretty darn similar to yours.

Even Grant doesn't have a "model" pitch elbow.

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With your body type it's going to be very hard for you to go 100% pitch elbow.

Here's another fatass player with a similar body type as yours. Note the position of his right elbow and the spacing between the elbows, also pretty darn similar to yours.

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[QUOTE name="mvmac" url="/t/60622/my-swing-golfingdad/432#post_1088163"]   With your body type it's going to be very hard for you to go 100% pitch elbow.  Here's another fatass player with a similar body type as yours. Note the position of his right elbow and the spacing between the elbows, also pretty darn similar to yours. [/QUOTE] Gee, @mvmac , you lift a few kettle bells and suddenly everyone else is chopped liver… :-D Merry Christmas… … Prank!

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Gee, @mvmac, you lift a few kettle bells and suddenly everyone else is chopped liver…

Merry Christmas…

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LOL, yeah and even I can't go pitch elbow! ;-)

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So while at the range today I decided to finally get around to doing this:

1) Take all of your wedges to a course or field or something.

2) Hit 10 balls with your first wedge swinging back to whatever you want to call 1/4 position.

3) Hit 10 balls with the same wedge going to half.

4) Hit 10 going back to 3/4.

5) Hit 10 with a full swing (skip this for the lob wedge perhaps).

6) Write down the distances they carry.

7) Repeat for other wedges.

I had a few snags - for some reason when I tried to hit partial shots with my UW, I was hitting mostly shanks - so I abandoned that one.  And because my full backswing isn't terribly long, I didn't really have a feel for what would be a 3/4 swing.  My 1/4 swing feels like it's to A2, and my 1/2 swing feels like A3.  I was trying to fill in a range of distances, so I also threw in a "choked up full swing" to see what else that might help me.  Anyway, here's what I came up with:

1/4               1/2              full             choked

UW          -                   -                125               115

SW          30                55             105                 95

LW          25                 35              90                  80

So my dilemma, as you can see, is that I have a big gap between 55 and 80 that needs filling.  I think the answer is that I need to "find" a comfortable 3/4 swing.  The 3/4 LW will like fall in the 60-ish range and the 3/4 SW will likely fall in the 75-80 range.

Do that and I'll have the "perfect" shot for almost every distance from 25 and up.  Ideally I could get that 1/2 LW up to 40-45, but at least its a start.

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Drew, can you tell us what lofts your wedges are..? For me, I hit a 52 about 15 yds farther tha I hit my 54..Just trying to get a sense of your yardages vs lofts... ;-)

I know the 15 yards sounds strange, but for some unknown reason I seem to hit the 52 better...BTW, it's my Son's club.

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Drew, can you tell us what lofts your wedges are..? For me, I hit a 52 about 15 yds farther tha I hit my 54..Just trying to get a sense of your yardages vs lofts...;-)   I know the 15 yards sounds strange, but for some unknown reason I seem to hit the 52 better...BTW, it's my Son's club.

You should replace your whole set with your son's clubs ;-)

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So while at the range today I decided to finally get around to doing this:

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Originally Posted by iacas

1) Take all of your wedges to a course or field or something.

2) Hit 10 balls with your first wedge swinging back to whatever you want to call 1/4 position.

3) Hit 10 balls with the same wedge going to half.

4) Hit 10 going back to 3/4.

5) Hit 10 with a full swing (skip this for the lob wedge perhaps).

6) Write down the distances they carry.

7) Repeat for other wedges.

I had a few snags - for some reason when I tried to hit partial shots with my UW, I was hitting mostly shanks - so I abandoned that one.  And because my full backswing isn't terribly long, I didn't really have a feel for what would be a 3/4 swing.  My 1/4 swing feels like it's to A2, and my 1/2 swing feels like A3.  I was trying to fill in a range of distances, so I also threw in a "choked up full swing" to see what else that might help me.  Anyway, here's what I came up with:

1/4               1/2              full             choked

UW          -                   -                125               115

SW          30                55             105                 95

LW          25                 35              90                  80

So my dilemma, as you can see, is that I have a big gap between 55 and 80 that needs filling.  I think the answer is that I need to "find" a comfortable 3/4 swing.  The 3/4 LW will like fall in the 60-ish range and the 3/4 SW will likely fall in the 75-80 range.

Do that and I'll have the "perfect" shot for almost every distance from 25 and up.  Ideally I could get that 1/2 LW up to 40-45, but at least its a start.


@mvmac told me that the "3/4" swing is an approximation, not a definitive arm position.  I only worked on 1/2 and 3/4.  When you get a sense of 1/2, you just go up a tad more for 3/4 but not all the way.  It actually could be a very small visual difference (maybe 10 degrees of rotation) but the feeling will be 3/4.  This should take care of the gap.

For me it is the following:

1/2               3/4              full

PW          80               100            125

52            60               80              100

58            50               60              85

I think of it more as a percentage.  3/4 swing is ~ 20% off the distance.  1/2 swing is ~40% off.  This applies to other clubs too like the 9 and 8 iron.

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Drew, can you tell us what lofts your wedges are..?

Sure, UW is 50, SW is 54.5' and LW is 59 [quote name="boogielicious" url="/t/60622/my-swing-golfingdad/420_30#post_1088611"] @mvmac told me that the "3/4" swing is an approximation, not a definitive arm position.  I only worked on 1/2 and 3/4.  When you get a sense of 1/2, you just go up a tad more for 3/4 but not all the way.  It actually could be a very small visual difference (maybe 10 degrees of rotation) but the feeling will be 3/4.  This should take care of the gap. For me it is the following:                [U]1/2               3/4              full             [/U] PW          80               100            125             52            60               80              100               58            50               60              85              I think of it more as a percentage.  3/4 swing is ~ 20% off the distance.  1/2 swing is ~40% off.  This applies to other clubs too like the 9 and 8 iron. [/quote]Yeah, that makes sense. Anything that's a little further than 1/2 will help, you're right. Thanks!

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So while at the range today I decided to finally get around to doing this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by iacas

1) Take all of your wedges to a course or field or something.

2) Hit 10 balls with your first wedge swinging back to whatever you want to call 1/4 position.

3) Hit 10 balls with the same wedge going to half.

4) Hit 10 going back to 3/4.

5) Hit 10 with a full swing (skip this for the lob wedge perhaps).

6) Write down the distances they carry.

7) Repeat for other wedges.

I had a few snags - for some reason when I tried to hit partial shots with my UW, I was hitting mostly shanks - so I abandoned that one.  And because my full backswing isn't terribly long, I didn't really have a feel for what would be a 3/4 swing.  My 1/4 swing feels like it's to A2, and my 1/2 swing feels like A3.  I was trying to fill in a range of distances, so I also threw in a "choked up full swing" to see what else that might help me.  Anyway, here's what I came up with:

1/4               1/2              full             choked

UW          -                   -                125               115

SW          30                55             105                 95

LW          25                 35              90                  80

So my dilemma, as you can see, is that I have a big gap between 55 and 80 that needs filling.  I think the answer is that I need to "find" a comfortable 3/4 swing.  The 3/4 LW will like fall in the 60-ish range and the 3/4 SW will likely fall in the 75-80 range.

Do that and I'll have the "perfect" shot for almost every distance from 25 and up.  Ideally I could get that 1/2 LW up to 40-45, but at least its a start.

I have yet to do this, but I'm not sure I want to. I have pretty good results from just looking at the flag and getting a feel for the distance. Then I choose my wedge based on what kind of trajectory and release I'm visualizing and just make the swing. I look at it like putting, see the shot, feel the "weight" required and then make the stroke.

@Golfingdad , when you're putting do you think about how far back to take the putter or do you let your instincts/feel guide you when it comes to distance control? I know some people like to warm up on the putting green by making putts where they take the putter back to inline with their trail foot to see how far it goes and then repeat with halfway to the back foot, 6" past the back foot etc...I have never liked that way of putting and find it makes my stroke very stiff and non-flowing. I view partial swings like pitches and chips the same way.

Of course, I'm about a 20 something and you're a 5 so I ain't ruling out the possibility that I should change my approach, but my recollection of my partial swings is that I usually stick them reasonably close just by making a few practice swings while looking at the target to get a feel for the "weight". When I try a more mathematical or technical approach I risk losing all feel and either flubbing the shot in some way or missing my distance way short or way long.

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Originally Posted by Golfingdad

So while at the range today I decided to finally get around to doing this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by iacas

1) Take all of your wedges to a course or field or something.

2) Hit 10 balls with your first wedge swinging back to whatever you want to call 1/4 position.

3) Hit 10 balls with the same wedge going to half.

4) Hit 10 going back to 3/4.

5) Hit 10 with a full swing (skip this for the lob wedge perhaps).

6) Write down the distances they carry.

7) Repeat for other wedges.

I had a few snags - for some reason when I tried to hit partial shots with my UW, I was hitting mostly shanks - so I abandoned that one.  And because my full backswing isn't terribly long, I didn't really have a feel for what would be a 3/4 swing.  My 1/4 swing feels like it's to A2, and my 1/2 swing feels like A3.  I was trying to fill in a range of distances, so I also threw in a "choked up full swing" to see what else that might help me.  Anyway, here's what I came up with:

1/4               1/2              full             choked

UW          -                   -                125               115

SW          30                55             105                 95

LW          25                 35              90                  80

So my dilemma, as you can see, is that I have a big gap between 55 and 80 that needs filling.  I think the answer is that I need to "find" a comfortable 3/4 swing.  The 3/4 LW will like fall in the 60-ish range and the 3/4 SW will likely fall in the 75-80 range.

Do that and I'll have the "perfect" shot for almost every distance from 25 and up.  Ideally I could get that 1/2 LW up to 40-45, but at least its a start.

I have yet to do this, but I'm not sure I want to. I have pretty good results from just looking at the flag and getting a feel for the distance. Then I choose my wedge based on what kind of trajectory and release I'm visualizing and just make the swing. I look at it like putting, see the shot, feel the "weight" required and then make the stroke.

@Golfingdad , when you're putting do you think about how far back to take the putter or do you let your instincts/feel guide you when it comes to distance control? I know some people like to warm up on the putting green by making putts where they take the putter back to inline with their trail foot to see how far it goes and then repeat with halfway to the back foot, 6" past the back foot etc...I have never liked that way of putting and find it makes my stroke very stiff and non-flowing. I view partial swings like pitches and chips the same way.

Of course, I'm about a 20 something and you're a 5 so I ain't ruling out the possibility that I should change my approach, but my recollection of my partial swings is that I usually stick them reasonably close just by making a few practice swings while looking at the target to get a feel for the "weight". When I try a more mathematical or technical approach I risk losing all feel and either flubbing the shot in some way or missing my distance way short or way long.

Missed my edit window (damn all you who conspire against me!!!) but I wanted to add this:

EDIT* just to add to the "weight" comment, when taking the putter back I never really pay attention to the distance it travels but I do note how heavy it feels. The farther back I take it, the heavier it feels and I've gotten pretty good at understanding how that weight translates as energy into the ball. The advantage (in my mind) is that I don't have to take my focus off of the ball to sense the weight whereas I would need to at least divide my attention to monitor the distance I take it back.

Anywho...probably drifting :offtopic: .

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I have yet to do this, but I'm not sure I want to. I have pretty good results from just looking at the flag and getting a feel for the distance. Then I choose my wedge based on what kind of trajectory and release I'm visualizing and just make the swing. I look at it like putting, see the shot, feel the "weight" required and then make the stroke.

That first sentence is EXACTLY how I felt from the first moment I read about Erik's distance stickers.  It seemed clever, yet, so, I don't know, robotic??  I could always just do as you do, and get a feel for the shot from using my eyes.

Then, after learning the "quickie pitch technique" and getting fairly proficient at it, I realized that a "full swing" with that technique - which also happens to be my 1/2 swing on the chart I made yesterday - goes about 55 yards.  I started becoming a lot more confident with pitches between 50-60 because of that.  (For a while I felt a little silly breaking out the range finder from 50 yards, but a couple of tap in birdies helped me get over that real quick. ;))

But the real reason I decided to try this is because I have found I have this sort of no mans land between 55 (full pitch) and about 90 (full LW).  I hadn't yet figured out a "go-to" shot for any of those distances and thought that maybe this would help.  With @boogielicious 's advice, I think next time out, I'll work on finding my 3/4 swings with each wedge and hopefully they'll slot right in.  Of course, then it's off to the course, and we'll have to wait and see if it helps or not.

@Golfingdad , when you're putting do you think about how far back to take the putter or do you let your instincts/feel guide you when it comes to distance control? I know some people like to warm up on the putting green by making putts where they take the putter back to inline with their trail foot to see how far it goes and then repeat with halfway to the back foot, 6" past the back foot etc...I have never liked that way of putting and find it makes my stroke very stiff and non-flowing. I view partial swings like pitches and chips the same way.

Nope ... all feel.  Now, that said, I was intrigued by something @iacas mentioned in our Aimpoint class.  The drill I liked the most was the distance control drill where you just putt straight putts 15' to a string back and forth.  If you practice that enough at the same course you'll get a good read on the length of that backswing, and you'll know that course's stimp, then each time you play a round on a different course, you already have a baseline for a 15' putt backswing.

I still haven't really worked on this though, kind of for the same reason you're hesitant to try the wedges.  A little too mechanical on one hand, and also (shh, don't tell) I don't practice putting enough to get this down.

Of course, I'm about a 20 something and you're a 5 so I ain't ruling out the possibility that I should change my approach, but my recollection of my partial swings is that I usually stick them reasonably close just by making a few practice swings while looking at the target to get a feel for the "weight". When I try a more mathematical or technical approach I risk losing all feel and either flubbing the shot in some way or missing my distance way short or way long.

I hear ya.  However, I don't think I'm going to "lose" (permanently) any feel for these shots, I'll just not have it while I'm trying the mechanical route.  If this fails, I'll go back to the "feel" type of short game.

Missed my edit window (damn all you who conspire against me!!!) but I wanted to add this:

EDIT* just to add to the "weight" comment, when taking the putter back I never really pay attention to the distance it travels but I do note how heavy it feels. The farther back I take it, the heavier it feels and I've gotten pretty good at understanding how that weight translates as energy into the ball. The advantage (in my mind) is that I don't have to take my focus off of the ball to sense the weight whereas I would need to at least divide my attention to monitor the distance I take it back.

Anywho...probably drifting .

No way.  Not off topic at all.  Anything that leads to us improving is on-topic of this thread.  Unless it helps any of you "easterners" more than me and you play in the Newport Cup.  In which case ... ***k you!

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A little too mechanical on one hand, and also (shh, don't tell) I don't practice putting enough to get this down.

Lol, me too, I never practice my putting except for maybe a few minutes while waiting to tee off and that's not really practicing, that's just figuring out the stimp.

Putting's for arseholes. :-$

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Lol, me too, I never practice my putting except for maybe a few minutes while waiting to tee off and that's not really practicing, that's just figuring out the stimp. [SPOILER=Warning: Spoiler!]Putting's for arseholes. :-$ [/SPOILER]

Well, you guys aren't alone.. I just don't lose enough strokes putting to justify practice.. Let's put it this way, if And when I start hitting 50%+ GIR I'll start worrying about putting :)

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1/4: around A2.

3/4: around A3 which is about when my left shoulder just touches my chin.

1/2 is between those two. :)

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1/4: around A2.

3/4: around A3 which is about when my left shoulder just touches my chin.

1/2 is between those two. :)


OK, so apparently I was doing this wrong.  ( @Ernest Jones this is for you too since we were discussing this earlier).

For my 1/4 and 1/2 swings I was also using pitching techniques for the swings, not full swing techniques.  Further, it was pointed out above by Erik that my 1/2 swing is probably closer to what should be 3/4.  I figured it was 1/2 simply because of the distance I was getting.  But I was only getting that distance because I was pitching, not swinging.  Now I'm quite excited to re-do these partial wedge swings so I can fill in those missing distances.  Further, I'll probably "acquire" another option for the 35-55 range with the 1/4 swings.  55 won't always necessarily be the "full" pitch, but could perhaps be a lower checking "full swing."

Anyways, I was able to get out for 18 today and (Jason, this is the part I think you'll be interested in) had a few chances to use my partial distances.  I think I'm going to like this and stick with it over my old "feel" style, because of the extra confidence I felt knowing I had the right shot.  Basically, the same way I feel with Aimpoint.  Feeling the shot, I may have gotten it right often, but it was still kind of just a guess.  Today I had a few shots with my wedges that turned out pretty good and there was no guessing.

Also, unrelated, but today I tried putting today for the first time without having my right index finger going straight down the back of the shaft.  It felt good and I putted really well.  Didn't really make much of anything, but the distance control was really good.

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    • I'm not an "official" instructor but I've been helping people for a few years now. I find that most beginners never get taught a proper concept of how the swing works. I also find that most people need a better understanding of what the arms and hands do before even working on the grip or the rest of the body. This is because what your concept of how the arms work through the downswing will dictate how strong or weak your grip must be. And if your arms work correctly then you can get away with a lot of variation in the lower body and still hit the ball decently. This will be long by the way... now...I get technical because...well...if you're writing it, you have to make it understandable. So let's understand the swing structure of the left or lead arm. The clubhead is controlled by the left hand, the left hand is controlled by the left wrist which is made up of the two bones of the forearm; the ulna closest to the pinky finger and the radius closest to the thumb. The forearm is attached to but can work independently of the humorous or upper arm which ends at the shoulder joint. That's the structure you are working with. Now how each section of that structure can work in different ways so let's talk about them starting at the upper arm. You may have heard people use the term "external shoulder rotation." It's usually used in reference to the right arm but that's okay you need to understand it in the left arm as well. First off...that's not a correct term. The shoulder is a complex structure of three bones; the clavicle in the upper chest/neck area, the scapula or shoulder blade that glides across the back and the end of the humorous bone that is the upper arm. So when you hear that term what they really are saying is "external rotation of the humerus." A simple way to understand this is to think about arm wrestling. If you are arm wresting someone with your elbow on a table you are trying to force your opponents arm into external rotation while your upper arm would be internally rotating. If you are losing the wrestling match you will find that while your elbow stays in place, your forearm and hand will be pushed back behind the elbow as your humerus externally rotates. So in the golf swing we don't want to be the winner of the arm wrestling match... at any point in time! Both upper arms need to externally rotate. The right upper arm externally rotates in the backswing and stays in that position through impact or for some people just before but very close to impact. The left arm must externally rotate in the downswing from impact through the finish. Some people choose to set-up with both upper arms externally rotated...think elbows pointed at the hips or biceps up. Others will start with just the right arm in this position...some people describe it as the "giving blood" position. Others start with both elbows internally rotated...biceps facing inward toward each other. You can set-up whichever way feels best to you but in your backswing and downswing the upper arms MUST externally rotate. Now back to the left arm...with which you should try to control the swing...and the forearm. The forearm is where most people get in trouble because it can rotate left or right no matter which orientation your upper arm is in...try it...it's just how the forearm is structured to work. And this is where you MUST make the decision as to how you want the forearms to work in order to choose how strong or weak your grip must be. Ben Hogan in his book 5 Lessons uses the terms supination and pronation. To illustrate it simply grab a club in your left hand and hold it out in front of you. Rotate your forearm to where your knuckles point to the sky (this is pronation) and then rotate your forearm the other way so that your knuckles point to the ground (this is supination). When your lead forearm is in pronation (knuckles up) the ulna will be on the left side of the radius. In supination (knuckles down the ulna rotates under the radius and the radius is now on the left side of the ulna. Very important that you relate this to the position of the ulna. At the top of the backswing you should be in a position where you feel that the knuckles of the left hand are pointed to the sky. As you rotate your body open and your chest pulls your arms down and into impact you will need to be aware that your ulna stays on the left side of the radius as long as possible. This is the position instructors are trying to have you achieve by pulling the butt of the club into an invisible wall past your left leg while maintaining the 90 degree angle formed by the shaft and your forearm. You've probably seen or heard of that drill as we all have over the years. Now here is the IMPORTANT part that no one seems to ever speak of...what happens from there!?! From that position...ulna on the left side of the radius, shaft and the forearm at a 90 degree angle, hands directly over the ball...you have two choices. 1) You can keep the ulna traveling toward the target on the left side of the radius and only release (unhinge) the wrists to lower the clubhead down into the ball or 2) while you unhinge your left wrist you can rotate your left forearm from the pronated position (knuckles up) to the supinated position (knuckles down) and let the ulna rotate under and eventually to the right side of the radius. If you choose to release the club with method 1 you will need a strong grip. The clubface will stay stable and square to the target throughout the swing but you probably will lose distance and have a very spinny ball flight. If you choose to release the club with method 2 you will probably require a much weaker grip as the clubhead will be less stable as it closes down coming into impact. This method requires more timing but results in more power through impact and usually more distance. You may also hook the ball if you start with too strong of a grip or a closed clubface at address. Method 2 is what most pros use but not all. Method 1 is what causes most people to hit weak, spinny slices and requires an unusually strong grip because with method 1 the left forearm has a tendency to open more coming into impact where the ulna stays in front of the radius too long.    Here's the catch...you need to learn both releases. Release 1 is how you want to use your wedges when you want to make sure the bounce interacts with the turf or if you need to hit a cut from left to right around a tree. You'll get more height and more spin with release 1. Release 2 will let the leading edge tear through the turf taking a nice crisp divot and can be used to hook a ball from right to left. Congratulations to anyone that read through all of this! I believe that once your brain understands precisely how it needs to control the different parts of your body it can do it repetitively on command. Your swing will repeat and not fall apart from day to day. Learn how you want to use your forearms and you can choose your grip and clubface position at address. Either method will work and both methods are used by the best players in the world for different shots.
    • Day 330 - Mostly just partial swings today, so I could really focus on exaggerating my hips towards the target in my finish. 
    • Day 72 - 2024-12-11 /sees a picture of Chet after shaving with a saw, goes back to doing a little mirror work at AMG.
    • Day 147: more mirror work. Trying to hone in the backswing stuff real nice. 
    • If I was going to try to help someone fix a low snap hook without actually seeing their swing I would have to tell them to break down the problem into pieces. See if you can fix the "low" part of the problem first. A low ball flight tells me you are probably swinging level or hitting down on the ball instead of hitting up on it. Try teeing the ball higher than you are comfortable and put the ball up in your stance a little further up than comfortable...try putting it off your left heal or even the left toe. Try to feel like your club head is swinging up through impact. Try that first and see if it gets you to a high snap hook or a high pull hook.    If you want to address the hook part of the swing you are going to have to look at two areas of the swing as well as your concept of what the arms and hands do through impact. I love talking through this stuff with people but I'll only go into it further if you really want to go down that rabbit hole...you would have to say so. Swing well my friend!
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