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Does Lefty's win in Scotland hurt or help him for the British?

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  1. 1. Lefty wins Scotish open, help or hurt?

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0ldblu3 Well Established Member

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It's the same type of golf, but the field isn't as strong. Beating Brandon Grace in a playoff isn't really the type of performance that will win you a British Open. Did he peak too soon, so to speak or is this the shot in the arm that will get him to a win?

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Chilli Dipper Great Member

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I don't see how it could possibly hurt him...

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He didn't just beat Branden Grace.

How can you criticise a win and say it " isn't really the type of performance that will win you a British Open"?

What can you ask the man to do except beat whoever shows up? He did it.

Also, Branden Grace is one of the hottest players in the world. He won 4 times on the European Tour in 2012.

This is about as ridiculous as saying that Tiger's wins are minimised because he "picks and chooses" his events.

Phil has as much chance as anybody in the field, and a lot more because he knows how to play the ball with imagination and enjoys this kind of golf.

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I don't see how it could possibly hurt him...

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David in FL Incredible Member

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He didn't just beat Branden Grace. How can you criticise a win and say it " isn't really the type of performance that will win you a British Open"? What can you ask the man to do except beat whoever shows up? He did it. Also, Branden Grace is one of the hottest players in the world. He won 4 times on the European Tour in 2012. This is about as ridiculous as saying that Tiger's wins are minimised because he "picks and chooses" his events. Phil has as much chance as anybody in the field, and a lot more because he knows how to play the ball with imagination and enjoys this kind of golf.

[quote name="Chilli Dipper" url="/t/68450/does-leftys-win-in-scotland-hurt-or-help-him-for-the-british#post_867801"]I don't see how it could possibly hurt him...[/quote] ^^^^^^ Both right ^^^^^^

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saturday Great Member

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I don't see how it could possibly hurt him...

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mchepp Great Member

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Great poll question. I am a bit superstitious in this regard, because I think it hurts him. Phil is a bit different as he has won before and then won a major, but for most golfers not named Tiger it usually means they don't win the next week at the major. Phil was not one of my favorites going in, and this didn't change that. I would love to see him win it after the heartbreak at the US Open.

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TourSpoon Super Member

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This event was a tune-up for the British and Phil is firing on all 8 cylinders now. His confidence will be high so hopefully he contends. This win only helps in preparing him for the Open.

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k-troop Great Member

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3-putt from 15 feet on 18 when he needs par to win probably sums up how the Scottish reflects on Phil's chances at Muirfield.

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JetFan1983 Super Member

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A win never hurts and Phil's playing well, but I think he's peaked too soon. It's hard to win two weeks in a row, especially when that second win would be a major you've never won before. It doesn't mean I'm rooting for him any less than I normally would though.

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misty_mountainhop Great Member

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How can it NOT help him? Aside from the actual win, he's just played 4 competitive rounds on a Scottish links in conditions which are likely to be very similar to Muirfield. I'd say that puts him in a better place than many of his contemporaries who, I'd suggest, might have been better served by also being in the Scottish Open field last week.

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Slice of Life Great Member

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He goes into it on a high note with a win, instead of just thinking about how he blew the US open. Definitely helps him...also proves that he can play the kind of golf that will be needed next weekend.

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MSchott Great Member

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I doubt he wins at Muirfield. His record in The Open is not strong and IMO Castle Stuart is a different type of links course than many at least from what I watched on TV. There didn't seem to be as many fairway bunkers which dictate strategy off of the tee on a links course. Plus, this was not as strong a field as you will see at Muirfield.

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anthony Dedicated Member

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This is a bit off topic, but did anyone else find the coverage really boring? I actually changed the channel and didn't come back to it. Not sure if it's the euro announcers or what, but I haven't switched off a golf tournament...well...I can't remember ever doing it.

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I predict that it will help him every bit as much as victory has assisted past Scottish Open Champions in conquering the British Open the next week - we all know how many times there's been a back-to-back winner...  well, uhhmmm... that number would be zero.  So historically, Phancy Phil just guaranteed a lack of success.

I caught the last few holes and the playoff on Sunday and agreed that the coverage seemed dull, not just from the low light toward the end of the day.

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I predict that it will help him every bit as much as victory has assisted past Scottish Open Champions in conquering the British Open the next week - we all know how many times there's been a back-to-back winner...  well, uhhmmm... that number would be zero.  So historically, Phancy Phil just guaranteed a lack of success. I caught the last few holes and the playoff on Sunday and agreed that the coverage seemed dull, not just from the low light toward the end of the day.

He didn't "guarantee" anything.

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Originally Posted by JetFan1983

A win never hurts and Phil's playing well, but I think he's peaked too soon. It's hard to win two weeks in a row, especially when that second win would be a major you've never won before. It doesn't mean I'm rooting for him any less than I normally would though.

I'm a genius clearly.

Constantine

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Slice of Life Great Member

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He goes into it on a high note with a win, instead of just thinking about how he blew the US open. Definitely helps him...also proves that he can play the kind of golf that will be needed next weekend.

Ding ding ding!!!! :-P

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