Chris Como Named Tiger's New Coach

[boogielicious]

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Originally Posted by boogielicious

I disagree @Golfingdad

.  Woods is clearly wearing an orange shirt on the left and a blue shirt on the right.  I think the pants are different too.

He covered that already

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Originally Posted by Golfingdad

His head looks slightly less rotated

His stance looks a teensy bit wider

His right elbow is less behind him (or at least its less behind his left arm)

His pants are a little darker

and his shirts a little less "orangey."

Yeah sorry.  I don't usually read his posts.  There are so many!!!

[nevets88]

I wonder if Woods reads golf forums and/or social media because tons of people were advising him to go back to his old swing on the internet. I can see it - he's had a lot of free time, but on the other hand, he seems stubborn in doing what he wants. Whatever the case, it's always funny imagining some celebrity reading about him/herself on the internet.

And you'd figure with his resources, he would have transferred all his VHS swings to a digital format a long time ago. And dude - why does your mom still have a VCR player? But seriously, I can see that mom wants to keep familiar electronic devices around and doesn't like change. If it ain't broke...

[boogielicious]

I wonder if Woods reads golf forums and/or social media because tons of people were advising him to go back to his old swing on the internet. I can see it - he's had a lot of free time, but on the other hand, he seems stubborn in doing what he wants. Whatever the case, it's always funny imagining some celebrity reading about him/herself on the internet.

You'd figure with his resources, he would have transferred all his VHS swings to a digital format.

Woods would need a staff of 1500 to read all that is printed, commented and posted about him on a daily basis.

[nevets88]

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Originally Posted by nevets88

I wonder if Woods reads golf forums and/or social media because tons of people were advising him to go back to his old swing on the internet. I can see it - he's had a lot of free time, but on the other hand, he seems stubborn in doing what he wants. Whatever the case, it's always funny imagining some celebrity reading about him/herself on the internet.

You'd figure with his resources, he would have transferred all his VHS swings to a digital format.

Woods would need a staff of 1500 to read all that is printed, commented and posted about him on a daily basis.

True. But he doesn't need to look far to find a comment telling him to go back to his old swing. Or hear someone say it in the background.

[boogielicious]

Today the "Loop" on golfdigest.com has five articles alone.  The third is about his old swing.

http://www.golfdigest.com/blogs/the-loop/

[Ernest Jones]

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Originally Posted by billchao

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Originally Posted by boogielicious

I disagree @Golfingdad

.  Woods is clearly wearing an orange shirt on the left and a blue shirt on the right.  I think the pants are different too.

He covered that already

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Originally Posted by Golfingdad

His head looks slightly less rotated

His stance looks a teensy bit wider

His right elbow is less behind him (or at least its less behind his left arm)

His pants are a little darker

and his shirts a little less "orangey."

Yeah sorry.  I don't usually read his posts.  There are so many!!!

I'm actually surprised Barney caught that subtle difference, judging by his sweater (or rumoured sweater(s)) I always assumed Barney was one of the 26,972,669 Americans living with colo u r blindness.

[phan52]

“We looked at a lot of video from when I was a junior,” said Woods. “It was quite interesting to see where my swing was then, and how much force I could generate with a skinny frame. How did I do that? That’s kind of what we’re getting back into.”

I said that he should be doing that a couple of years back and took a beating for it here because, you know, what do I know being a "hater" and all.

The more mechanical he got, the worse it was for him, IMO. The dude is a great athlete. He should be tapping into that first.

[iacas]

“We looked at a lot of video from when I was a junior,” said Woods. “It was quite interesting to see where my swing was then, and how much force I could generate with a skinny frame. How did I do that? That’s kind of what we’re getting back into.”

I said that he should be doing that a couple of years back and took a beating for it here because, you know, what do I know being a "hater" and all.

Oh brother.

[9iron]

“We looked at a lot of video from when I was a junior,” said Woods. “It was quite interesting to see where my swing was then, and how much force I could generate with a skinny frame. How did I do that? That’s kind of what we’re getting back into.”

I said that he should be doing that a couple of years back and took a beating for it here because, you know, what do I know being a "hater" and all.

The more mechanical he got, the worse it was for him, IMO. The dude is a great athlete. He should be tapping into that first.

I recall all that, phan. You were right. Tiger was doing himself a dis service trying to be too technical, and by his own words he is trying to regain his old ways. Hopefully he didn't wait too long to go back. His new swing does look more fluid as I mentioned in one of the other threads.

[Ernest Jones]

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[14ledo81]

Henceforth thou shalt be known as Phan the Man.

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[Abu3baid]

“We looked at a lot of video from when I was a junior,” said Woods. “It was quite interesting to see where my swing was then, and how much force I could generate with a skinny frame. How did I do that? That’s kind of what we’re getting back into.” I said that he should be doing that a couple of years back and took a beating for it here because, you know, what do I know being a "hater" and all. The more mechanical he got, the worse it was for him, IMO. The dude is a great athlete. He should be tapping into that first.

I wasn't here for all that, but I think it would be relevant to the conversation if you could give us some quotes when you were toasted for making the suggestion that tiger himself is exploring now!

[iacas]

I wasn't here for all that, but I think it would be relevant to the conversation if you could give us some quotes when you were toasted for making the suggestion that tiger himself is exploring now!

It didn't happen, pretty sure. Not the "beating" part, anyway.

I don't have any reason to doubt that @phan52 said something like "Tiger should swing like when he was younger and/or stop playing 'golf swing'". A lot of people were saying it. But the easy counter-arguments would have been:

• There's not much proof that he's playing "golf swing" on the golf course.
• Tiger has said himself he can't do a lot of what he did when he was younger; his body won't allow it.
• Tiger won three times in 2012, five (including player of the year) in 2013, and was injured throughout most of 2014, further reducing the odds of swinging like he's 21.

Plus:

• It's not like he's actually swinging like he's 21 years old again. The changes thus far are incredibly small .
• You can't necessarily believe all that Tiger says (you'd think @phan52 of all people would understand this given how upset he was at Tiger's "deception" or whatever re: his sexcapades). Tiger's always been optimistic and said what people wanted to hear regarding his golf swing (when he says anything at all about it). He was optimistic until right up to the point where it was obvious he and Sean were going their separate ways. Ditto Harmon and Haney.

You won't see Tiger swinging like this any time soon, or ever again:

I intentionally picked a fairly smooth swing (for Tiger) from the best year he or anyone else has ever had.

[phan52]

Originally Posted by phan52

“We looked at a lot of video from when I was a junior,” said Woods. “It was quite interesting to see where my swing was then, and how much force I could generate with a skinny frame. How did I do that? That’s kind of what we’re getting back into.”

I said that he should be doing that a couple of years back and took a beating for it here because, you know, what do I know being a "hater" and all.

The more mechanical he got, the worse it was for him, IMO. The dude is a great athlete. He should be tapping into that first.

Originally Posted by 9iron

I recall all that, phan. You were right. Tiger was doing himself a dis service trying to be too technical, and by his own words he is trying to regain his old ways. Hopefully he didn't wait too long to go back. His new swing does look more fluid as I mentioned in one of the other threads.

Tiger obviously had the instincts to get the club in the proper position at impact and was a superior athlete. That athleticism was the key because it allowed him to get the club in the right place, even with obvious flaws. When he began more closely assessing his swing, he said himself at the time that he had to remove the flaws and that is when he started to get technical. He liked his ball flight but he didn't like how he achieved it. Changes became incremental with new ideas from coaches, and then accelerated due to concerns about his body.

He may not have the athleticism of his youth to physically overcome some of the flaws, but I'll bet he still has the instincts. He knows how to hit a golf ball. He's got to start thinking like when he was kid and get rid of the technical detritus he's accumulated over the years. I believe that the weight loss is part of that process.

[colin007]

Tiger obviously had the instincts to get the club in the proper position at impact and was a superior athlete. That athleticism was the key because it allowed him to get the club in the right place, even with obvious flaws. When he began more closely assessing his swing, he said himself at the time that he had to remove the flaws and that is when he started to get technical. He liked his ball flight but he didn't like how he achieved it. Changes became incremental with new ideas from coaches, and then accelerated due to concerns about his body.

He may not have the athleticism of his youth to physically overcome some of the flaws, but I'll bet he still has the instincts. He knows how to hit a golf ball. He's got to start thinking like when he was kid and get rid of the technical detritus he's accumulated over the years. I believe that the weight loss is part of that process.

you do realize that he is physically unable to replicate that swing anymore?  the stress on the left leg prevents him from snapping it like he used to.

[phan52]

Originally Posted by phan52

Tiger obviously had the instincts to get the club in the proper position at impact and was a superior athlete. That athleticism was the key because it allowed him to get the club in the right place, even with obvious flaws. When he began more closely assessing his swing, he said himself at the time that he had to remove the flaws and that is when he started to get technical. He liked his ball flight but he didn't like how he achieved it. Changes became incremental with new ideas from coaches, and then accelerated due to concerns about his body.

He may not have the athleticism of his youth to physically overcome some of the flaws, but I'll bet he still has the instincts. He knows how to hit a golf ball. He's got to start thinking like when he was kid and get rid of the technical detritus he's accumulated over the years. I believe that the weight loss is part of that process.

Originally Posted by colin007

you do realize that he is physically unable to replicate that swing anymore?  the stress on the left leg prevents him from snapping it like he used to.

I am well aware of that. I am talking about his head. He's got to be instinctive, not rote.

[colin007]

I am well aware of that. I am talking about his head. He's got to be instinctive, not rote.

when you have a two way miss its hard to rectify relying on instincts.

[phan52]

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Originally Posted by phan52

I am well aware of that. I am talking about his head. He's got to be instinctive, not rote.

Originally Posted by colin007

when you have a two way miss its hard to rectify relying on instincts.

I disagree. He's gotten in trouble because he was overthinking it. It will take time to get away from that, but he has said himself that it is his intent. That's why he's gone back to watching himself as a kid. He is as aware as anybody that he can't swing like that anymore, but he is looking at the athleticism and the freedom. It's a nice fallback position to have, having been the best player on the planet at one time and it's not like he's ready for the Senior Tour just yet.