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JB is looking pretty solid in this playoff.

Yours in earnest, Jason.
Call me Ernest, or EJ or Ernie.

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Hey dick with the camera, way to go f**k-O.

Yours in earnest, Jason.
Call me Ernest, or EJ or Ernie.

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I find it very educatiional to see Wagner take the same routine every time he has to hit. Practise swing, breathe all out to relax and fire away! Take note to myself!

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Is it Wagner's lowish stance making an optical illusion, or is his driver really short?

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Callaway X-24 10.5° Driver, Callaway Big Bertha 15° wood, Callaway XR 19° hybrid, Callaway X-24 24° hybrid, Callaway X-24 5i-9i, PING Glide PW 47°/12°, Cleveland REG 588 52°/08°, Callaway Mack Daddy PM Grind 56°/13°, 60°/10°, Odyssey Versa Jailbird putter w/SuperStroke Slim 3.0 grip, Callaway Chev Stand Bag, Titleist Pro-V1x ball

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Ha ha, Johnny Miller thinks plumb bobbing works. Hell, why would you need to plumb bob with all that water, clearly it breaks to the pond, no?

Yours in earnest, Jason.
Call me Ernest, or EJ or Ernie.

PSA - "If you find yourself in a hole, STOP DIGGING!"

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In the bag for JB

Driver: TaylorMade R15 430 (9.5 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Pro Tour Spec 83X (Made for J.B. Holmes)

Mini Driver: TaylorMade AeroBurner Mini Driver (12 degrees, bent to 11 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Pro Tour Spec 93X

5 Wood: TaylorMade SLDR 5HL (21 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Rayon Diamana B-Series 80X

Irons: Tour Edge Exotics CB PROh (3), TaylorMade Tour Preferred MC 2014 (4-9)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400

Wedges: Cleveland 588 RTX (48, 54 and 60 degrees)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400

Putter: Odyssey Metal-X Milled Versa #7

Golf Ball: Srixon Z-Star

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If JBHolmes or GMac wins the Master's, watch the Srixon ball zoom in sales.  Titleist will take a real hit if golfers dare to think 'another ball might be just as good'.


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If JBHolmes or GMac wins the Master's, watch the Srixon ball zoom in sales.  Titleist will take a real hit if golfers dare to think 'another ball might be just as good'.

Not gonna happen. How many Nike or Callaway balls have won majors over the past 15 years? A ton. It'll take a mass exodus from Titelist by the pros to hurt them.

In my Bag: Driver: Titelist 913 D3 9.5 deg. 3W: TaylorMade RBZ 14.5 3H: TaylorMade RBZ 18.5 4I - SW: TaylorMade R7 TP LW: Titelist Vokey 60 Putter: Odyssey 2-Ball

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If JBHolmes or GMac wins the Master's, watch the Srixon ball zoom in sales.  Titleist will take a real hit if golfers dare to think 'another ball might be just as good'.

I highly doubt that having JB Holmes or GMac win the Masters would put any dent into this market share they have.

Well, i guess Titleist does have the deepest pockets.

I doubt it. I would say Taylormade and Nike have more money than Titleist. Heck Nike was able to sign Tiger. I don't think Titleist had the resources or wanted to front that type of deal with Tiger. Titleist just does what they want to do and golfers still choose their golf ball.

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If JBHolmes or GMac wins the Master's, watch the Srixon ball zoom in sales.  Titleist will take a real hit if golfers dare to think 'another ball might be just as good'.

A real hit to Titleist? No way. A definite shot in the arm for Srixon though. A very good ball that goes unnoticed/untried by a lot of amateurs. But any bump to Srixon just isn't going to have a significant impact to the death grip that big T has on the premium ball market.

In David's bag....

Driver: Titleist 910 D-3;  9.5* Diamana Kai'li
3-Wood: Titleist 910F;  15* Diamana Kai'li
Hybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'li
Irons: Titleist 695cb 5-Pw

Wedges: Scratch 51-11 TNC grind, Vokey SM-5's;  56-14 F grind and 60-11 K grind
Putter: Scotty Cameron Kombi S
Ball: ProV1

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If JBHolmes or GMac wins the Master's, watch the Srixon ball zoom in sales.  Titleist will take a real hit if golfers dare to think 'another ball might be just as good'.

Tiger and Phil winning 20 majors between them hasn't put a dent in the Titleist market and it's not like Keegan and Graeme haven't won majors.

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Callaway X-24 10.5° Driver, Callaway Big Bertha 15° wood, Callaway XR 19° hybrid, Callaway X-24 24° hybrid, Callaway X-24 5i-9i, PING Glide PW 47°/12°, Cleveland REG 588 52°/08°, Callaway Mack Daddy PM Grind 56°/13°, 60°/10°, Odyssey Versa Jailbird putter w/SuperStroke Slim 3.0 grip, Callaway Chev Stand Bag, Titleist Pro-V1x ball

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Tiger and Phil winning 20 majors between them hasn't put a dent in the Titleist market and it's not like Keegan and Graeme haven't won majors.

Great point, if Tiger and Phil haven't hurt Titleist, JB and GMac won't even register on their radar.

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Great point, if Tiger and Phil haven't hurt Titleist, JB and GMac won't even register on their radar.

Titleist has done a great job of creating the impression that if players weren't locked into playing any given ball, they'd all play Titleist. Might even be true, frankly. But that same brand rep doesn't exist with other clubs. Happens with a given model on occasion like the SLDR driver, but it's much more fragmented.

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Callaway X-24 10.5° Driver, Callaway Big Bertha 15° wood, Callaway XR 19° hybrid, Callaway X-24 24° hybrid, Callaway X-24 5i-9i, PING Glide PW 47°/12°, Cleveland REG 588 52°/08°, Callaway Mack Daddy PM Grind 56°/13°, 60°/10°, Odyssey Versa Jailbird putter w/SuperStroke Slim 3.0 grip, Callaway Chev Stand Bag, Titleist Pro-V1x ball

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Titleist has done a great job of creating the impression that if players weren't locked into playing any given ball, they'd all play Titleist. Might even be true, frankly. But that same brand rep doesn't exist with other clubs. Happens with a given model on occasion like the SLDR driver, but it's much more fragmented.


Seems like it is true. Every week they have about 80 or 90 balls in play while their next nearest competitor is 10-20.

I do wonder what their tee-up bonuses are though.

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Tiger and Phil winning 20 majors between them hasn't put a dent in the Titleist market and it's not like Keegan and Graeme haven't won majors.

Great point, if Tiger and Phil haven't hurt Titleist, JB and GMac won't even register on their radar.

Also doesn't help that Callaway and Nike are always discontinuing models every two years to make room for new ones. If I was a professional I would stick with Prov1s just for the fact I know I won't have any trouble getting my hands on them next season or have to make adjustments for a new ball. One less thing to worry about.

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