Rich Beem asked to Drop out of Tournament for Ian Poulter

[Gator Hazard]

This is an interesting read, what are people's thoughts on this?  Do you agree it was the right thing to do and a show of class or is it not right as perhaps Poulter does not deserve what he does not earn? 

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/golf-grateful-poulter-admits-got-wrong-063601443.html

Possible poll worthy article

[Yukari]

Wow!  On one hand, Poulter's livelihood is potentially at stake (if he loses his European Tour card, I assume he can't play in the European tour).  On the other hand, it sucks for Rich Beam to have to travel half-way across the globe just to be asked to sit out.

I guess Poulter can make it somewhat "right" by giving Rich all of his winnings? or at least pay for Rich's expenses.

[Gator Hazard]

Wow!  On one hand, Poulter's livelihood is potentially at stake (if he loses his European Tour card, I assume he can't play in the European tour).  On the other hand, it sucks for Rich Beam to have to travel half-way across the globe just to be asked to sit out.

I guess Poulter can make it somewhat "right" by giving Rich all of his winnings? or at least pay for Rich's expenses.

I figure that Beem was already compensated somehow and it is possible that they made an arrangement as well.  I just think it is interesting that in competitive golf at that level one would be asked to not compete so someone can keep their tour card when they have not done what others are expected to keep it.  If this is John Doe that makes it on tour for a year this doesn't happen but because it is a better known name it does?  There are so many who have not made anything near what Poulter makes whose livelihood is also at stake, and now it seems that one of those people more deserving may not get their chance as they get squeezed out.  I am not sure how usual or unusual this is so curious.

 

[Patch]

Beem was asked to drop out, and he agreed to whatever the parameters were. No big deal. His decision to make. I'm not much of a "Lil' Girl" fan, but he has to make a living too.

The irony of all this is if Poulter delivers the winning RC point which defeats the Americans. It will be Beem's fault in a somewhat weird way.  

[Abu3baid]

Others may disagree with me, but I'm calling bullshit on this.. They should all be ashamed of themselves..  

Also, this can't be the end of it right?  How dumb will they look if he doesn't make the cut?  

[Gator Hazard]

Beem was asked to drop out, and he agreed to whatever the parameters were. No big deal. His decision to make. I'm not much of a "Lil' Girl" fan, but he has to make a living too.

The irony of all this is if Poulter delivers the winning RC point which defeats the Americans. It will be Beem's fault in a somewhat weird way.  

That he has to make a living doesn't speak to the person who is on the cusp who gets that spot and earned it because Poulter this season did not without the aid of another person.  Because of that, a person who may have been struggling to get their card and would have done so now doesn't get it because Poulter has to make a living too.  If that is the case, that is what bothers me.  Poulter isn't starving.

Maybe no one gets hurt in this transaction, I don't know but am curious if that is the case.  

[isukgolf]

I found this in another article, it sounds like poor planing on Poulter's part, and cutting it so close to the line.

Poulter dropped to number 51 after Andy Sullivanand Emiliano Grillo both won tournaments last week, meaning he was ineligible for the WGC-HSBC Champions event in Shanghai in China and would have fallen one short of competing in the necessary 13 events to retain his European Tour membership.

 

[Abu3baid]

I found this in another article, it sounds like poor planing on Poulter's part, and cutting it so close to the line.

 

ah ok.. So he only needs to compete in.. That sucks.. I was hoping he would have had to actually place.. Oh well.

[skydog]

Yea I feel like there's got to be more to this story than is being reported. Beem was there on a sponsor exemption and given his limited opportunities on tour these days, I don't think he would willingly give up a spot. I'm guessing the Euro tour put some pressure on the sponsor to essentially revoke the exemption here or maybe Poulter's team did cut some kind of monetary deal with Beem.

My prediction is this will end up being a good thing for the US team next year. I think the Euros will waste a captain's pick on Poulter based on his past glory there but I think his game is bad enough at this point that even at the RC, he won't be able to contribute anything positive with it.

[Golfingdad]

The story annoys me.  The headline claims that Poulter admits he "got it wrong" but the only quote in the actual story says nothing of the sort.  In fact, it makes it appear that Poulter didn't know Beem was asked to drop out until after the fact.

Journalists these days suck ass.

[garush34]

It just goes to show how much of the players planning is based on good play, this and the Kaymer case shouldn't have happened if they planned to play more than just the required amount.

[Shindig]

Poulter reminds me of the students who ask me at the end of the semester what they can do to improve their grade, and I look up their scores and discover they've neglected to turn in most of the homework assignments.  The answer is "plan ahead better in the future."

Rich should've reminded Poulter about the gesture he made in Phoenix a few years back. 

Journalists these days suck ass.

You're too kind to them.

[iacas]

The story annoys me.  The headline claims that Poulter admits he "got it wrong" but the only quote in the actual story says nothing of the sort.  In fact, it makes it appear that Poulter didn't know Beem was asked to drop out until after the fact.

Journalists these days suck ass.

They do, but I think the part he "got wrong" was that he thought he'd still be qualified to play in the HSBC to meet his 13-event requirement.

[Golfingdad]

They do, but I think the part he "got wrong" was that he thought he'd still be qualified to play in the HSBC to meet his 13-event requirement.

That makes more sense, but it still seems like it should be a requirement that if you put a quote in a headline then that quote should be in the story.  Since it isn't, I'm left to wonder if the writer is incompetent and forgot to include it or just a big fat liar who made it up for clicks?  I'm hoping it's the first one.

[Wansteadimp]

That makes more sense, but it still seems like it should be a requirement that if you put a quote in a headline then that quote should be in the story.  Since it isn't, I'm left to wonder if the writer is incompetent and forgot to include it or just a big fat liar who made it up for clicks?  I'm hoping it's the first one.

Happens all the time, someone writes the story, someone else writes the headline to maximise clicks.

In this case it is just agency copy from AFP that Yahoo have slapped onto their website and stuck a headline on.

Further info here: -

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/c9e3b398baef48e48c98154e1c4c5d05/beems-decision-allows-poulter-keep-european-tour-card

 

[newtogolf]

If Beem was compensated or okay with it, then there's not much for me to get upset about.  If they convinced Beem's sponsors to revoke their exemption and Beem had no choice but to act gracious then I'd say it was wrong.

I don't get these guys like Poulter, Kaymer and Tiger who limit the number of tournaments they play in.  I don't know what the prize money is on the Euro tour but if I had a chance every weekend to win $1M+ I'd be playing as many tournaments as I could.

[Shindig]

I don't get these guys like Poulter, Kaymer and Tiger who limit the number of tournaments they play in.  I don't know what the prize money is on the Euro tour but if I had a chance every weekend to win $1M+ I'd be playing as many tournaments as I could.

Keep in mind that money isn't valued linearly.  $1M -- or even 10% of that -- would make a big difference to me, and probably to you too.  The expected profit of participating (not just the chance of winning $1M) probably doesn't make a big difference to them, particularly Tiger.

[dkolo]

Keep in mind that money isn't valued linearly.  $1M -- or even 10% of that -- would make a big difference to me, and probably to you too.  The expected profit of participating (not just the chance of winning $1M) probably doesn't make a big difference to them, particularly Tiger.

Moreover, halfheartedly playing week in and week out at small tournaments like the Shriner's or Reno-Tahoe or whatever will lead to fatigue and maybe bad habits developing, so when the big payday tournaments come around with actual life-changing money, they aren't as sharp as they could be.

 

And besides, you earn the money so that you don't have to keep earning money and can actually enjoy it. God bless 'em if they want to actually take time off.