Bryson DeChambeau is now a professional...

[nevets88]

Winning on the PGA Tour - Art or Science?

Hey, we've heard this answer before, no?

 

 

[natureboy]

On 4/19/2016 at 8:24 AM, newtogolf said:

It's a long shot, plus I'm not sure he'd be a captains pick because right now all the coverage of his clubs, swing and "mad scientist" approach to golf could been seen as a distraction for the team.  

If he qualifies on points then he deserves to go but if not, I'd leave him home this year.  

I'd agree. Starting with President's Cup like Spieth is a little less pressure for a relative rookie.

[k-troop]

Currently T-123 in San Antonio. Has been or never was?

[iacas]

16 hours ago, k-troop said:

Currently T-123 in San Antonio. Has been or never was?

You don't win two major amateur events as a never-was. And he has decades before he's a has-been.

[skydog]

1 hour ago, iacas said:

You don't win two major amateur events as a never-was. And he has decades before he's a has-been.

 I think there was a healthy dose of sarcasm in @k-troop's comment.

[nevets88]

Bryson DeChambeau is probably reaching media saturation and here's yet another piece on him:

The Zealot: Bryson DeChambeau [Golf Digest]

[newtogolf]

There's not much Bryson talk this week given he's not going to make the cut.  I'm curious to see how he handles not being at the center of attention.  

[phillyk]

46 minutes ago, newtogolf said:

There's not much Bryson talk this week given he's not going to make the cut.  I'm curious to see how he handles not being at the center of attention.  

He needs it.  Quit yapping about "the theories" or whatever to the media and play your game.  I think this will be a good wake up call for him.

[Rainmaker]

7 hours ago, phillyk said:

He needs it.  Quit yapping about "the theories" or whatever to the media and play your game.  I think this will be a good wake up call for him.

It's a stupid golf course, though. True - everybody was playing the same course . .but a lot of pros skip this tournament - partly due to timing/partly due to the course. 

If I were Bryson's caddie . . I'd say shake it off . .this week is a mulligan.  

 

[Natural Patrick]

11 hours ago, Rainmaker said:

It's a stupid golf course, though. True - everybody was playing the same course . .but a lot of pros skip this tournament - partly due to timing/partly due to the course. 

If I were Bryson's caddie . . I'd say shake it off . .this week is a mulligan.  

 

Why is it a stupid golf course?

[Natural Patrick]

It's the toughest non major course they play on tour. Yep, that makes it stupid

[Rainmaker]

I'm not sure where you're getting that it's the tougheset non-major course - I've never heard that.  If you google "worst pga courses" . .everybody who makes such a list puts this course on it.  The players have criticized it - both verbally and by not coming.  

Here's what golf.com says about it:

http://www.golf.com/photos/5-best-and-5-worst-pga-tour-courses#7

" Just the sheer number of corporate references in the name of the course should send this layout packing. However, it cements its status in the bottom five with rock-and oak-strewn rough framing the slender fairways, rendering it nearly unplayable in the wind, as well as for its small, heavily contoured greens and deep, awkwardly sited bunkers. "

Golf digest rates it 3rd worst in a "Player's Pick The Worst Courses" featuer and gives this comment from an anonymous pro:

"complete disaster," that "had a chance to be phenomenal with the property" but "pride and ego got in the Shark's way." ... "Shorten it for starters," said one while noting the "crazy" undulating putting surfaces. "The greens need to be blown up." ... "We couldn't get around in twosomes ... it's just too much golf."

As a local I've payed attention to the tournament . .mostly because I wish it was better.  One thing I think would make it better is changing venues. 

 

[Chilli Dipper]

1 hour ago, Rainmaker said:

I'm not sure where you're getting that it's the tougheset non-major course - I've never heard that.  If you google "worst pga courses" . .everybody who makes such a list puts this course on it.  The players have criticized it - both verbally and by not coming.

As a local I've payed attention to the tournament . .mostly because I wish it was better.  One thing I think would make it better is changing venues. 

 

It's too long, it's too narrow, the woods lining the fairways are too dense to play recovery shots out of, and the greens are not receptive to approach shots. Sounds too tough to me.

As far as changing venues, there's a tournament-ready Pete Dye course on the other side of the property, which was generally well-received when it hosted a stop on the Champions Tour for several years.

[Natural Patrick]

36 minutes ago, Chilli Dipper said:

It's too long, it's too narrow, the woods lining the fairways are too dense to play recovery shots out of, and the greens are not receptive to approach shots. Sounds too tough to me.

As far as changing venues, there's a tournament-ready Pete Dye course on the other side of the property, which was generally well-received when it hosted a stop on the Champions Tour for several years.

Exactly it's tough. You have to feel a little bit sorry for PGA  Tour players right? Rainmaker, today on the broadcast. They said that the highest scoring  average in the last 3 years. among non major tournaments was the Texas Open. If that makes it a stupid course, then I guess I like stupid tournaments.

[Missouri Swede]

2 hours ago, Rainmaker said:

I'm not sure where you're getting that it's the tougheset non-major course - I've never heard that.

 

14 minutes ago, Natural Patrick said:

Rainmaker, today on the broadcast. They said that the highest scoring  average in the last 3 years.

As @Natural Patrick said. (From Thursday's broadcast, but I'm sure they used the same info each day):

[Natural Patrick]

6 minutes ago, Missouri Swede said:

 

As @Natural Patrick said. (From Thursday's broadcast, but I'm sure they used the same info each day):

You da man Missouri Swede

[Rainmaker]

I didn't see that stat but I guess it makes sense if you look only at scoring.  I like tough courses and tough tournaments but I find this one gimmicky.  And unfair if there are sporadic winds during the week.  It's way, way harder in the wind. 

Most importantly - the players don't come.  That's a huge problem. 

[Natural Patrick]

31 minutes ago, Rainmaker said:

I didn't see that stat but I guess it makes sense if you look only at scoring.  I like tough courses and tough tournaments but I find this one gimmicky.  And unfair if there are sporadic winds during the week.  It's way, way harder in the wind. 

Most importantly - the players don't come.  That's a huge problem. 

Yeah, I would have liked to have seen a better field myself. On the other hand, what do the best players in the world have to fear?