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Unable to complete backswing when ball is there.

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I know I've described this previously as "rushing" or "good practice swing... bad real swing" but this is a more precise description:

I can't do a full backswing with a ball present. Without the ball I can easily and smoothly bring the club back to horizontal or beyond. Put a ball there and some kind of mental reflex starts slowing me down or stops me somewhere before 3/4 back.

I can force it in some kind of slowmo. My instructor could talk me past it, but that didn't help me past the range. The reason I stopped taking lessons is that I see no point until I overcome this demon on my own.

Anyone else have this mental issue and how did you get past it?

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These are the ones I don't get.

If it's actually true and you've confirmed it (it's not just a feeling), the answer is to make yourself do it properly enough times to make it habitual.

If there are tricks to help you do it like saying a long word in your mind during the backswing, use those. But eventually it comes down to willpower.

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Do you mean you don't complete your backswing and start some of your body going forward while others are going back?  Or that your backswing stops before you reach the back, and either a pause or all at once transition to forward?

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2 hours ago, iacas said:

These are the ones I don't get.

If it's actually true and you've confirmed it (it's not just a feeling), the answer is to make yourself do it properly enough times to make it habitual.

If there are tricks to help you do it like saying a long word in your mind during the backswing, use those. But eventually it comes down to willpower.

That's pretty much what I do, try tricks, try willpower.

58 minutes ago, Hacker James said:

nothing wrong with 3/4 and for many, preferred.

Not for me. When I can manage a full backswing I hit a lot better.

39 minutes ago, Shindig said:

Do you mean you don't complete your backswing and start some of your body going forward while others are going back?  Or that your backswing stops before you reach the back, and either a pause or all at once transition to forward?

Could be described as an involuntary need to start swinging the arms forward. Probably closer to your 2nd option.

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I think I have a similar issue, but I am very early in my training process. Regardless, I just can't recreate what I do away from a ball when I have a ball in front of me. 

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23 minutes ago, colin007 said:

Show us a video of both. With a ball and without.

I'm not prepared to post that publicly. 

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6 minutes ago, gregsandiego said:

I'm not prepared to post that publicly. 

Physically? Emotionally? Existentially?

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Try starting your backswing with your eyes closed and don't open them until you reach the top...no peeking.

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1 minute ago, colin007 said:

Physically? Emotionally? Existentially?

Existentially ?

 

"If you wrestle with big questions involving the meaning of life, you may be having an existential crisis. "

 

THAT'S IT!

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When teaching clinics, I see that a lot of people try way too hard when a ball is there to hit.  I usually stand there and just tell them to let loose and swing as fast as they can.  I don't care where the ball goes or if they make contact for that swing, I just want them to get out of this zone of way too much control.  The other way is to try and have them not look at the ball, but a blade of grass between the club and ball and stare at that as they swing (or stare through the ball).  Keep soft hands, and let the animal loose.

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I'd have to see it to believe it. Most amateurs I see that play worse than mid single digit golf tend to complete their backswing and then some with elbow bending to move the arms more "up" in an attempt to create swing length. Even when I feel like I am stopping at waist level what I see on video it's well past that.

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4 hours ago, Piz said:

Try starting your backswing with your eyes closed and don't open them until you reach the top...no peeking.

I will add that to my list.

 

3 hours ago, phillyk said:

When teaching clinics, I see that a lot of people try way too hard when a ball is there to hit.  I usually stand there and just tell them to let loose and swing as fast as they can.  I don't care where the ball goes or if they make contact for that swing, I just want them to get out of this zone of way too much control.  The other way is to try and have them not look at the ball, but a blade of grass between the club and ball and stare at that as they swing (or stare through the ball).  Keep soft hands, and let the animal loose.

I will try these ideas too.

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4 hours ago, gregsandiego said:

I'm not prepared to post that publicly. 

Why?

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Just now, iacas said:

Why?

Oh I don't know . Maybe I'm not fond of the idea of a crappy swing of  mine being view able by anyone with an internet connection.

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5 minutes ago, gregsandiego said:

Oh I don't know . Maybe I'm not fond of the idea of a crappy swing of  mine being view able by anyone with an internet connection.

Nobody cares enough, except those trying to help. I suggest a Member Swing thread.

Otherwise we're all just guessing.

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3 minutes ago, iacas said:

Nobody cares enough, except those trying to help. I suggest a Member Swing thread.

Otherwise we're all just guessing.

I am sure that's probably true. Let me read the part about how to make a video again.

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