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I'm new on here but have a crazy question. I currently have a set of 2008 AP 1's, my handicap is 14. I put the game away for a few years and just got back in last fall. Anyway, I hit some 718 AP 2's and they feel more forgiving than my current set..... Am I nuts? Anyway I was considering the AP 3's and will get fitted but might also hit the 2's at the fitter as well. I guess my question is, have irons came that far or is it in my head?

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Welcome to TST.   We're glad you've decided to join.   Technology has changed since 2008 with clubs being more forgiving and longer (sometimes because of the loft change).    Getting fitted will help you decide which clubs work for you.   

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14 minutes ago, Jkf10 said:

Thank you. I just read an old article that said the 716 AP2 is more forgiving than the 710 AP1. Maybe I'm not just dreaming this up. 

They probably are, but whether you can "tell" or not is another matter entirely.

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2008 AP1 vs 2018 AP2...  Yes 10 years of iron improvement would make the AP2 easier to hit for most people.  You'd have to be the judge.  A lot of people still sticking with Ping eye2 irons from 1986 vs a new set of Pings...depends on u hitting them.

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I would say play out your return season with the 2008 AP1 irons until you get your swing back. Continue to try other irons along the way just to see what's out there.

Then, decide for 2019 what irons you want.

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new toys give you more confidence. how is your distance, AP3 are distance irons. I think you should stick with AP2 or do a split set of AP1 or AP3 long irons and AP2 short irons.

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I would say the changes in irons in ten years are fairly significant, as well as having more shaft options.

The 718AP2 could very well be as forgiving as your 2008 AP1s. The 718AP3 has the same lofts as the 716 AP1. The 718AP1 is about a degree stronger through the set. The 718AP2 is a couple of degrees weaker than the AP3.  Five irons-AP2 = 27*, AP3 = 25*, AP1= 24*

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@Jkf10 It's not in your head.  Manufacturing and materials improvements have allowed for advancements in weight distribution to make heads more stable on off center hits and improve ball launching in the long irons.  Ping i200's have the same moment of inertia value as G15's.

What could be in your head is you just getting along with the club.  The club that will get you the best results is the one you hit the center of the face most often.  Maybe that head/shaft combo is right for you and you just stroke it.  If it feels good, just roll with it.

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On 2/15/2018 at 5:38 PM, Jkf10 said:

I'm new on here but have a crazy question. I currently have a set of 2008 AP 1's, my handicap is 14. I put the game away for a few years and just got back in last fall. Anyway, I hit some 718 AP 2's and they feel more forgiving than my current set..... Am I nuts? Anyway I was considering the AP 3's and will get fitted but might also hit the 2's at the fitter as well. I guess my question is, have irons came that far or is it in my head?

Irons have come a long way in 10 years. I do still believe it's the person swinging the club, not the club itself. If you have consistent enough strikes, go ahead and get the AP2s. If not, AP3 or AP1 would be the way to go. It depends on the golfer, and that's true of any club.

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If you use anything long enough; you will eventually get the balance of it.  It is at that point, and not before, that your decisions have some empirical data behind them.  Like they say in hockey...don't get caught chasing the game.

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